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Teaching sand to think was a mistake.

'More evil than the Devil himself.'

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@ABoricua31824 It is equivalent to forcibly expelling the fetus out of the womb by taking misoprostol and letting it die on floor of a bathroom.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Yeah, you weren't able to show it. And you made it sound easy and obvious, so what happened?

Your best argument did not even have any series without a beginning, by the way. So why don't you start there?

What is the task, exactly?

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@muheediva01 Baby in a seat designed to literally protect it in a car crash. Absolutely impossible to anything serious to happen to it even if the seat somehow slides from the foot high coffee table.

Mother panics anyway, to an absolutely insane degree.

Classic woman.

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@ABoricua31824 Abortion is killing a human being, not letting a human being die.

If I intentionally throw you into the ocean, knowing for full well that you will die there, that is murder.

Why should women be allowed to murder their unborn children this way?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux None of what I claimed indicated it was impossible. You certainly were not able to show it.

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@ABoricua31824 If your assertion is that bodily autonomy can justify intentionally ending a dependent human life, explain why.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux What implications?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux You didn't have to make admitting defeat that obvious.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Every series in your argument has a beginning, though.

Perhaps try a different method and formalism, if you actually intended to examine a series without a beginning.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux There is no end to the timeline I am proposing. It goes to infinity in both directions.

Counting starts from a number. Infinity is not a number.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux You don't have a series without a beginning in your argument. Each of your series begins with E-n where n is from N.

Did you forget to write that? You can add it if you'd like.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux I don't think the present is what you said, but feel free to prove it.

What discipline do you think the concepts I used (number line, zero and infinity) are from?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux I don't think the present is like that at all.

If one end of an axis goes to minus infinity and the other to plus infinity, there must be a zero somewhere.

If an infinite timeline stretches into infinity on both ends, the present must exist on such a timeline.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Yes, that is precisely what I want you to represent mathematically.

And you did. Doesn't that feel great?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Yep, any one event in the infinite past is not infinitely far from the present.

That does work for every natural number even though their cardinality is aleph null.

You graduated from "not even wrong" to "wrong" which is a huge improvement in math and science. Well done.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux That's not an argument. That's a claim, that you tried to support with weak analogies and without any math or rigor.

The only time you presented an actual, albeit someone else's, argument, it turned out to be wrong.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Where are those deeper logical and philosophical problems with actual infinities?

Is there a proper, structured argument, that is not dumbed down into an cute story about a guy on a boat? Can you formally, mathematically state the problem the analogy is supposed to represent?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux You could have said that you don't have an argument.

You clearly need to believe that the Universe has a beginning.

I don't need to believe anything about the origins of the Universe. I just know that eternal cosmologies are on the table.

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux Yes, the Universe does not necessarily have a beginning, but that is not like sailing around the world.

An analogy is not an argument. Do you have an argument?

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@JandersonDalat @MRothtard @StefanMolyneux At what point in time did he start sailing?