@gr_roman1770@ExoticSpice101 The C1-Pro is still closer to an E-Core
C1-Ultra + C1-Premium would be more interesting, essentially copying Apple's Super+Perf in their M5 Pro/Max
@lafaiel Qualcomm really messed up by not getting into the server market sooner. Their P-cores are small with the highest perf/mm2, plus are close in efficiency to Apple/Arm. Making them perfect for the server market
@MichaelSmicqfw@TheGalox_ Incorrect, Google's Tensor G5 (121mm2) is about 22% larger than Apple's A19 Pro (99mm2). Thus probably 25-30% more expensive. That's how amazing the Apple Silicon team are
@lafaiel@saurax04 It's #2 the X2 Plus has worse ST than their lower power 8E g5 in phones. Qualcomm just loves their own foot, must be the Radeon heritage 😂😂
@lafaiel A19P's P-core 12.11 at 7.4W = 1.64/W
M5P's M-core: 10.3 at 4-5W = 2.06-2.58/W, still a big 26-57% uplift
M5P's M-core: 10.3 at 2.5-3W = 3.43-4.12/W, insane 209-252% uplift
@lafaiel jht5132 also said the M-core scores 508 in Cinebench 2026 at 5W
I think 4-5W is more accurate, standard methodology: system power minus idle
2.5-3W is only M-core itself, but that's non-standard methodology
Still 10.3 at 4-5W is still a huge lead in perf/W vs the industry
@UniverseIce@faridofanani96 S27 Ultra without the S Pen? So just an S27 Ultra but with a slightly larger battery? That doesn't really sound appealing
The S27 Pro should be a 6.3" S27 Ultra Mini. Competing with the iPhone 18 Pro, Pixel 11 Pro & Xiaomi 18 Pro
@toniievych@MCH2024@geekbench Lol that quote is regarding comparing ARM systems with & without SME. Since Arm's SME is quite new, hence only recently supported by GB6 & some CPUs
It wasn't about ARM systems vs x86 systems. SME support actually levelled the playing field as
GB6 already supported AVX/etc