@SpanishSebas@PirakaFury@ItsR0DR1 Adequate. Kids and new players are gonna intuitively guess you are supposed to call the npc’s at a particular time. I played these games 5 times as a kid and only learned about this recently.
Optional routes: genuinely what? Mt Mortar? Trainers are still like level 20
@SpanishSebas@PirakaFury@ItsR0DR1 Pokewalker -> it’s 2026, I have one but it’s dead and it’s not an excuse since most play emulator.
New route -> level 24 Pokémon. The fact the area atop the waterfall is the best grinding spot pre elite 4 doesn’t matter if the bar is on the floor.
Phone call rematches: not /
@GroundBack01@sparite Coverage existing isn’t a good excuse to make it a chore to grind up Pokémon you catch late game. The design inhibits you from messing around with your team and experimenting with new stuff
@GroundBack01@sparite They’re welcome until you want to actually play Pokémon. If you want to use vulpix, stand around like a dick until you get a phone call or do pokeathalon on fridays for a stone.
@GroundBack01@sparite I’ve never felt the need to grind in either of those games, because the difficulty curves in a way beyond just bumping levels. Even if you have to, grinding is trivial with Audino (you get a tutorial) and the infinitely rebattleable breeders in bw2
@GroundBack01@sparite That doesn’t mean they should make it an excessive effort to train something up if you do see something cool. It’s a game about collecting cool new creatures, and adding this barrier to use them disincentivises it. Especially when ice types are so late game, but so good for lance
@GroundBack01@sparite I’m glad we both love these games but I doubt we’ll be able to agree lmao. I’ll take better designed enemy teams and level curves from gen 5 or even platinum over hgss “everything is level 20 until the level 40 boss” any day, but I’m glad it works for you
@GroundBack01@sparite The issue arises for Clair when you catch a level 22 swinub in ice path, or a skarmory? Or even a level 16 voltorb in rocket hideout. Surely you can acknowledge that it’s insane for wild Pokémon to scale so far behind where the player should be level wise
@GroundBack01@sparite I’ve played these games on physical ds lmao I know what a problem it is, if the solution is emulating then surely that in itself is something worth critiquing in the original. Fire blast isn’t even good, as someone who had experienced enough misses at 8 to know never to trust it
@GroundBack01@sparite You listed flamethrower and ice beam which are voltorb flip hell but wtv. I’m aware that you can beat every npc under leveled, but it’s not fun catching a Pokémon past jasmine and having to spend at least an hour getting it from level 20 to being par with the rest of your team
@SumBraveApollo@ottservia It is for me man 😭 I genuinely love these games, but I don’t have time anymore to keep track of which glup shitto I need to battle at 4pm on a Saturday so I can maximise the exp I get or make sure I don’t miss the 1 lapras in the game available at 6pm on saturdays
@GroundBack01@sparite “Skill issue” but lists tens of hours of busy work for a children’s game are you fr. No one’s struggling that hard, people just think grinding sucks, especially in a game where the only options to grind on are level 22 shitmons
@SuperJuiceBoi You have a level 36 typhlosion, and a team of 5 other Pokémon, by Morty or Chuck 😭 don’t even lie man it’s okay to enjoy these games without thinking the level curve is annoying
@RoyBattyRabbit@ItsR0DR1 Everyone beat this game when they were 8, having a shit level curve ≠ it’s super difficult or anything. it’s just not fun going back as an adult when you catch a new team member and have to spend an hour grinding it to your teams level, especially on slow ass gen 4 cartridge.
@PirakaFury@ItsR0DR1 Exactly, if you catch anything past Jasmine (except the red gyarados), you’ll be spending an hour trying to get it up to par grinding against level 18 flaaffys
@ottservia Also it’s not really excusable no matter how you slice it that if you want to use anything new past Jasmine you’ll be most likely grinding for at least 10 levels to make them usable on wild level 16 Pokémon
@ottservia I get the whole “slow down and enjoy the adventure gimmick” but it’s a lot less feasible when you’re a grown adult with other responsibilities to do your daily missions. The majority of the people playing these specific games and adults now
@DavidSharp84@zvckrobi@RuffCrim I care about Palestine but it seems you’re just more brain broken by Jewish people… If you want to get mad at anyone you’ve got bigger fish to fry than a washed up internet comedian who’s career is tanked
@DavidSharp84@zvckrobi@RuffCrim ?? Look at the demographics for idubbbzz, filthy frank, maxmoefoe etc in 2015 it was all the same people. I don’t think the left being institutionally fucked by Israel is something one fat retarded YouTuber cooked up. Idk how the hell you’ve extrapolated all of this