@MilesCranmer@skdh LLMs run on computers. Anything computable can be run on a Turing Machine. A long roll of toilet paper and a purple crayon can simulate a Turing machine. Ergo, if you say an LLM has human-like attributes then you must agree that toilet paper does as well. QED.
@AleMartnezR1 My pizza is the best possible pizza. A pizza that is also a god is better than one that is not. Imagine someone else’s pizza has all of my qualities plus it is a god. This pizza would be better than mine. This contradicts my definition. Ergo, my pizza is a god.
How do any other subjective values come about? Why, for example, are Yelp ratings of pizzerias not all the same? Why are some consistently higher than others? How do people come to a common understanding of what “good” pizza is? And if, as is apparently so, such shared yet subject evaluations come about without a pizza god to define it for them, why can’t communities arrive at similar subjective yet shared values for other things, including morals?
@AleMartnezR1 Rob's Chili is the best in the world, by definition. It can't be the best if it does not actually exist. Therefore it actually exists in the world, and is the best chili.
@AleMartnezR1 It depends on the statement. “This apple is red” and “This apple exists and is red” are identical. The equivocation to avoid is shifting between “is” used definitionally with respect to terms and “is” introducing descriptions of objects.
@NSKinsella@CaminaDrummer4 Another angle: no one has the right to extract your political or religious views from your head, either. But this is not because the ideas are property. They are protected by 4th and 5th amendments, by right of privacy, and/or self-ownership (choose your framework.)
“No one has been able to” is not the same as “no one can” or “no one may.” In the case of independent discovery, which is common, inevitable even, you see what is property and what isn’t. Ideas in your head merely were never property. A patent is. We can debate whether it should or not, but that is how it is with IP today.