No Dice

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[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

Racism of the soul eclipses all other bigotry, born from the heights of vainglory where one presumes their soul innately superior to others. This arrogance shatters human dignity, distorts the moral order, and enthrones the self on a false pedestal. It relentlessly seeks to crush lesser souls under the weight of its conceit.

[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

@seeker2371 @JLtrucker1211 @ThoughtfulSaint @grok But this doesn't

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@Imortalegend94 @just_keep_read @ThoughtfulSaint @grok Of course. It's easy to reject what your founder was charged with when it's inconvenient.

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@Imortalegend94 @just_keep_read @ThoughtfulSaint @grok How convenient.

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@Imortalegend94 @just_keep_read @ThoughtfulSaint @grok It came from your prophet, Silly Goose.

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@ThoughtfulSaint This is why your view of theology is wrong.

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On the Identity of God

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@axeldenabias @danilosud3 @CapturingChrist Also, their arguments fail. You can read further about this here.

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On the Identity of God

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@axeldenabias @danilosud3 @CapturingChrist Yeah. More or less. They can never identify the who, what, where, when points of the great apostasy. It's no different than Islam. In fact, it's mormonism borrows heavily from Islam in its origins and defense.

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@ThoughtfulSaint @ThyHolyHerald I dismantled your bs already.

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On the Identity of God

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@ThoughtfulSaint Wrong.

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On the Identity of God

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@axeldenabias @danilosud3 @CapturingChrist Basically anything affirmed by historic Christianity during what Mormons claim to be the great apostasy. It's stupid.

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@danilosud3 @CapturingChrist Mormons aren't Christian. Period.

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On the Identity of God

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You've changed topics many times.
Funny enough sanctification only strengthens my points. Not yours.

[Marine1 @TonyG_in_LV]

@Yes_Dice I’m talking about what it is. It is the act or process of being made holy, purified, or set apart for a special purpose. I’m not talking about why it’s necessary to begin with. And I’m done talking to a child.

[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

When you read the Holy Scriptures are you not interpreting it in ways that makes sense to you in how it relates to your life?

[Marine1 @TonyG_in_LV]

@Yes_Dice And I didn’t say that BOM and add to God’s revelation. They are both additions to something we don’t need.

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@TonyG_in_LV Sanctification is necessitated by the fact there is sin, Silly Goose.

[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

Silly Goose, your comparison fails because a catechism and the Book of Mormon are fundamentally different things. A catechism does not claim to be new revelation, new scripture, or an addition to the deposit of faith. It is a summary of doctrines already taught by the Church. The Book of Mormon, by contrast, claims to be an additional revealed text.

Further, Scripture never teaches that divine revelation would be confined to a future collection of books called "the Bible." The apostles transmitted the faith both orally and in writing (2 Thess. 2:15). Therefore, explaining apostolic doctrine is not the same as adding to it.

As for Catholicism resembling Judaism, Christianity is the fulfillment of Israel. Christ did not abolish the priesthood, sacrifice, covenantal worship, or sacred authority established by God; He brought them to their perfection. Continuity with biblical religion is evidence of Christianity's authenticity, not an argument against it.

[Marine1 @TonyG_in_LV]

@Yes_Dice Catechism is much like the Book of Mormon. Just something added because God says do not add to the Bible. Catholicism resembles Judaism more than you’ll ever know.

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@TonyG_in_LV And once again you fail to substantiate your claim and make category errors.

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The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and is the ordinary means of salvation. The sacerdotal priesthood is necessary for the valid administration of those sacraments entrusted to the Church, through which the faithful are sanctified and progressively conformed to Christ. At the center of this sacramental economy stands the Eucharist, the source and summit of the Christian life, which is truly, substantially, and sacramentally the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. Through participation in this mystery, the faithful are united more perfectly to Christ and nourished unto eternal life.

[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

That does not address the original argument.

You claimed a catechism is comparable to the Book of Mormon because both add to God's revelation. A catechism does not claim to be revelation at all, whereas the Book of Mormon explicitly does. The comparison therefore fails.

As for the law being written on the heart, that does not eliminate the need for teaching or authoritative interpretation. Scripture repeatedly warns that men distort doctrine, misunderstand Scripture, and fall away from the faith. If the law written on the heart were sufficient by itself to guarantee right belief, there would be no heresy, apostasy, false teachers, or doctrinal divisions. Yet the New Testament is filled with warnings against precisely these realities.

In fact, your argument proves too much. If the law written on the heart were sufficient in the sense you are proposing, there would be no sin at all, for every person would naturally and infallibly follow God's will. Clearly that is not the case. The law may be written on the heart, but man remains capable of error, disobedience, self-deception, and rebellion.

That is precisely why Christ established a teaching Church, appointed shepherds, commanded the apostles to teach all nations, and instructed the faithful to hold fast to apostolic tradition. The existence of divine truth within the heart does not negate the need for divinely instituted authority to teach, preserve, and defend that truth.

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Yawn.

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[Marine1 @TonyG_in_LV]

@Yes_Dice They use a Bible verse to say one needs to look at a wafer and say it’s the presence of the Lord. A wafer made by the hands of man. If you are born again then Christ’s presence lives in something greater than the Eucharist, He lives inside believers made in the image of God

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Without Christ crucified you lack true worship.

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Christ crucified IS the Good News and is central to all of Holy Writ.

1 Cor 1:23
We preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles.

1 Cor 2:2
I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.

CCC 571
The Paschal mystery of Christ’s cross and Resurrection stands at the center of the Good News... accomplished once for all (Heb 9:26) by the redemptive death of His Son.

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Crucifixion is inseparable from redemption and the Passover.

John 19:30
When Jesus had received the vinegar, He said, “It is finished (tetelestai)”... and gave up His spirit.
》τετέλεσται (tetelestai): accomplished, fulfilled (cf. Jn 19:28).

See Psalm 22; the hyssop of Exodus 12:22 in the first Passover.

Heb 9:12
He entered once for all... not the blood of goats and calves but His own blood, securing eternal redemption.

CCC 613
(Mt 26:28)

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The Old Covenant foreshadows the Eucharistic sacrifice.

Ex 12:5–7, 46
John 1:29
Num 21:9 / Jn 3:14–15

CCC 608
... “Lamb of God”... suffering Servant and Paschal Lamb... “to serve and to give His life as a ransom for many” (Mk 10:45).

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Christ’s sacrifice is made present in the Eucharist.

Matt 26:26–28 / Mk 14:22–24 / Lk 22:19–20 / 1 Cor 11:23–26
Take, eat; this is My body... this is My blood of the covenant... Do this in remembrance of Me... For as often as you eat and drink, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

CCC 1323
At the Last Supper our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice to perpetuate the sacrifice of the Cross through the ages.

CCC 1367
The sacrifice of Christ and the Eucharist are one... the same Christ who offered Himself once in blood now offers Himself unbloodily on the altar.

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The Eucharist is real Flesh and real Blood.

John 6:51–58
I am the living bread... the bread... is My flesh... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood you have no life in you. (phago / trogo = literal eating)

CCC 1374

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Why we hold the Mass.

Heb 10:10–14
We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all... by a single offering He perfected those sanctified.

1 Cor 10:16–17
The cup of blessing... is it not a participation in the blood of Christ?

CCC 1362–1366 (abridged)
1362 The Eucharist is the memorial of Christ’s Passover...
1364 The sacrifice offered once for all on the Cross remains ever present...
1365 In it Christ gives the body He gave up and the blood He poured out...
1366 It re-presents the Cross, its memory perpetuated, its fruits applied for forgiveness.

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The Crucifix proclaims the same sacrifice.

Gal 3:1
Phil 2:8–9 He humbled Himself... even to death on a cross; therefore God highly exalted Him.

Col 1:20 Making peace by the blood of His Cross.

CCC 1235
The sign of the Cross signifies the grace of redemption Christ won for us.

CCC 618
The Cross is Christ’s unique sacrifice... yet He unites Himself to all men, offering them participation in the Paschal mystery. Apart from the Cross there is no ladder to heaven.

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Participation in the sacrifice.

Rom 12:1 Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God.
Luke 9:23

CCC 1368
The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of the Church... the faithful unite their lives, prayers, and sufferings with Christ’s offering, which makes all generations sharers in His one sacrifice.

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The Cross and Eucharist are the heart of the Faith.

CCC 512
All that Jesus did and taught is to be seen in the light of the mysteries of the Incarnation and Paschal mystery.

CCC 1324
The Eucharist is the source and summit of the Christian life... containing the whole spiritual good of the Church, Christ Himself, our Pasch.

1 Cor 11:26
For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.

[No Dice @Yes_Dice]

The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and is the ordinary means of salvation. The sacerdotal priesthood is necessary for the valid administration of those sacraments entrusted to the Church, through which the faithful are sanctified and progressively conformed to Christ. At the center of this sacramental economy stands the Eucharist, the source and summit of the Christian life, which is truly, substantially, and sacramentally the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ. Through participation in this mystery, the faithful are united more perfectly to Christ and nourished unto eternal life.

[Marine1 @TonyG_in_LV]

@Yes_Dice @ThoughtfulSaint We can go back and forth all day long on arguments about Catholicism. But in the end we both know it doesn’t save. Catholicism didn’t shed its blood on the cross for humanity.