Yet Another Student

🧔‍♂️ Ka'b al Ahbar-hater, Idol-smasher. I do research. Sometimes I hit, sometimes I miss.
Enraged hadith absolutists call me a cockroach 🪳

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Have you ever heard of 𐩧𐩢𐩣𐩬𐩬 or Raḥmānān?

It was the way Southern Arabs called God or Allah, according to archaeology and Late Sabaic inscriptions.

"Al-Rahman" (الرحمن) is most probably an arabization of this name of God.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

https://t.co/Qe0AINAuh0

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

عَنْ كَعْبٍ قَالَ: إِنَّ اللَّهَ تَعَالَى قَالَ: يَا مُوسَى بْنَ عِمْرَانَ إِنِّي افْتَرَضْتُ الصِّيَامَ عَلَى عِبَادِي وَهُوَ شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ،

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

يَا مُوسَى إِنَّهُ مَنْ وَافَى يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ فِي صَحِيفَتِهِ صِيَامُ عَشْرِ رَمَضَانَ فَهُوَ مِنَ الْمُخْبِتِينَ�� وَمَنْ وَافَى بِعِشْرِينَ مِنْ رَمَضَانَ فَهُوَ مِنَ الْأَبْرَارِ، وَمَنْ وَافَى بِثَلَاثِينَ مِنْ رَمَضَانَ فَهُوَ أَفْضَلُ مِنَ الشُّهَدَاءِ عِنْدِي

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

can you imagine? 9 years old!?

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Les guerres idéologiques entre la Mecque/Médine (sous l'influence de Abdallah Ibn Zubayr) et le Sham ont donné ce genre d'aberrations.

Quant aux fameux 27 degrés à la mosquée, il fallait absolument que les gens soient là pour avaler la soupe des conteurs

https://t.co/Wo9TCoKbM4

[Sultan de Conakry @ABDELDJALIL224]

Je viens humblement demander des explications.

Aux plaisantins de s’abstenir.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

https://t.co/spy0xoQv4s

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

وقالت العلماء: هذه الآية في الحرائر؛ وأما الإماء فإن ع��ر بن الخطاب رأى أمة عليها قناعاً فعلاها بالدرة وقال: اكشفي عن رأسك لا تتشبّهي بالحرائر. ذكروا عن أنس بن مالك قال: كُنّ جواري عمر (2) يخدمننا كاشفات رؤوسهن تضرب ثديهن، بادية خدامهن

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Initially from the shore, one sees the pure message and core principles.

Then you dive and you discover hadiths, traditional rulings, clergy and all the crazy stuff :)

[Tyson Hockley @HockleyTyson]

Islam genuinely makes the most sense to me at the moment, however religion as a whole still feels weird to me.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

AI is wild. It even refers to @JonathanACBrown in the last screenshot.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

A very useful AI prompt I urge you to try, with Claude or GPT4 for example:

(try it with "clergy concept and religious authorities" for example)

I wish to explore the Quran on the theme of [...], based solely on the Quranic text itself, without any reference to hadiths, tafsir, or other secondary sources. Please:

- Identify all verses (ayat) that directly address this topic
- Present these verses in their immediate textual context
- Analyze the key Arabic terms used in these passages
- Examine how this theme develops across different surahs
- Note any nuances or variations in how the subject is treated
- Identify internal textual connections between different passages
- VERY IMPORTANT: You must absolutely avoid the trap of anachronism by projecting post-Quranic meanings of words onto their Quranic context. This is fundamental - you must always start from scratch.

This is intended to understand how the Quran itself addresses this theme, letting the text speak for itself.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

@KItreal512 because you don't know the basics of the very hadith science you're defending, that's why.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

This story is featured in Tahdhib al-Kamal, quoting Tarikh Al-Bukhari, but you reject it?

You claim to follow hadith sciences yet reject Al-Bukhari's own methodology? Pick a side.

Unlike me who came to the conclusion hadith science is a joke, you claim to respect and follow it. Then respect how Al-Bukhari and Al-Mizzi - the actual masters - used different standards for historical narratives vs legal hadiths.

You're using legal hadith criteria to reject historical narratives that the founders of your own methodology accepted. Classic Twitter-scholar move.

Either follow the masters of your own science properly or admit you're cherry-picking rules to match your preferences.

Or join the awoken ones.

[keep Itreal @KItreal512]

@YetAnthrStudent This narration comes through Musa Ibn Yaqub.
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal & Ali ibn al Madini amongst others rejected him.
It’s not authentic.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

@KItreal512 You don't even understand the meaning of "tarikh" when used by muhaddithun (no it's not about history)... Alright.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Sleeping with your buddy and your wife, altogether under the same blanket, you say astaghfirullah I say mashallah.

This is what close friendship looks like 🫶

https://t.co/OxBY3cpzgk

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

I'm not a specialist, but I recently learned about herem in Deuteronomy. This article seems balanced and highlights the tension among commentators.

https://t.co/NH1HvYkvCW

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

@hypatiusbrontes yes, i forgot about it :(

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

I'm trying to figure out what exactly is meant by "Scripture" here? What is it referring to?

Any help much appreciated.

https://t.co/LcjSvlRz1W

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

@hacolhavel thank you! הַכָּתוּב indeed.

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Meanwhile ash'aris

[Marijn van Putten @PhDniX]

If you need God to tell you that it is wrong to kill people and otherwise you literally would not know that that is the case, you're either a psychpath or obviously deluding yourself.

This is why I block every galaxy brain person that asks "how do you know murder is wrong?"

[Yet Another Student @YetAnthrStudent]

Je parcourais mes signets et je retombe sur cet échange.

En fait à la base ce hadith, régulièrement cité par le courant majoritaire, n'a rien à voir avec ce qu'on lui a fait dire par la suite et comment on l'a utilisé.

Sa'id ibn Abdelaziz (policier dimashqi) d'après ibn halbas (commissaire de police dimashqi) que bashir ibn abi mas'ud ("wa kana min ashab al nabi!" = qui était un compagnon!) a dit : "alaykum bil jama'a fa inn Allah la tajtami'u 'ala dalalah, iyakum wa talawun".

"Craignez Dieu et attachez-vous à la communauté, car Dieu ne réunira pas la communauté de Muhammad dans l'erreur. Et gardez-vous de changer de couleur (c'est-à-dire de varier) dans la religion de Dieu, car la religion de Dieu est une. Et attachez-vous à l'obéissance au sein de la communauté jusqu'à ce que le pieux trouve le repos ou que l'on soit débarrassé du méchant."

https://t.co/1a9CcuYHeJ
https://t.co/yd6lvIMUic

Quelle erreur... Nous on croyait que le hadith était machallah et qu'il y avait une sorte de baraka sur le groupe, la majorité.

Mais en fait c'est encore un autre hadith politique, moche qui vise à appeler à l'obéissance aux injustes, comme d'habitude quand ça provient du Sham.. 😔