@JasontheLayman Many Christians like you attack my faith
The one thing they all seem to lack is the ability to listen
“They’re under a spell…”
No.
We’re just regularly attacked by people who REFUSE to SEE US as equals, regardless of theology.
It’s all just ego and superiority in the end.
@JasontheLayman@Salt_n_Smoke You people are disgusting.
I’ve been a me ever my entire life have never ever met someone who even remotely worships Joseph Smith.
Latter-day Saints believe because we feel that God has answered our prayers to know if this church is His, and the doctrine makes more sense
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 Also, that’s a false dichotomy.
I understand why you feel there is a dichotomy, but it’s not one.
Also, the book stands today as originally translated minus grammatical changes made to make it easier to read and printers errors.
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 Are you following up or presenting a new argument?
Having read the Book of Mormon and studied its Hebraisms and other stunning accuracies, I believe there are only three options
1. Aliens wrote it.
2. Joseph Smith translated a true document by the power of God.
@dttpeople@AreYouEstyWhy The LDS church doesn’t own the rights to Joseph Smith’s translation. The Community of Christ (formerly reformed LDS church) does.
We only have permission to print excerpts in the footnotes.
Your entire argument is based on ignorance of the facts.
@dttpeople Fun fact, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn’t own the rights to the Joseph Smith translation. The Community of Christ church does.
They only granted the LDS church permission to print excerpts in 1979.
Hiding it? No.
Do better. Research more
@BereanHouse@jhaws1001 Love those verses.
An excellent warning.
I’m of the opinion that Joseph is a true prophet… so they don’t apply to him.
But I lived in Africa and I met some people who fit that warning for sure.
@BereanHouse@jhaws1001 Yeah. So it’s not a remarkable or difficult prophecy.
But neither position is improved above the other with this detail
“Anyone could have guessed that”
“Yeah, but it happened, and the Burnt District is evidence of a true prophecy”
It’s just how you CHOOSE to see it bro
@johnnyonio@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 Just go look into it my guy. I don’t know anything about the jesuits other than that they recorded a group on the Baja peninsula who called themselves a name phonetically the same as “Laman”
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 Essentially, this is one of those arguments that goes either way.
If the book is true, of course that’s how he translated it!
And if it’s a fabrication, of course! That’s how he deceived everyone!
Neither position is improved above the other with this detail.
@BereanHouse@jhaws1001 The answer you’re looking for is “The civil war” specifically “the Burnt District” in Missouri.
Let me know when you’ve finished researching all that.
No earthquakes, though. Negative point to Joseph. Otherwise pretty solid prophecy.
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 That’s the biggest reach against the Book of Mormon I’ve ever seen.
“Joseph knew the actual spelling. The priest just heard it out loud and figured a spelling out. Therefore, Joseph wasn’t a prophet.”
Answer: the priests weren’t prophets. They got it wrong. lol
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 I’m not paying for a checkmark. I’ve only got 140 characters so you just get to have the guist. Sorry, I literally don’t make the rules.
It was mostly because it was entirely a non sequitur.
“Joseph wasn’t a prophet because he didn’t spell it the same as the Jesuit priests”😂
@BereanHouse@jhaws1001 You’re old enough to get naunce. There’s overt and subvert.
Yours was subvert, and Joseph Smiths was overt.
Both pretty dang prideful if you ask me.
And Joseph Smith having faults doesn’t mean he wasn’t a prophet, otherwise every prophet in the bible would be disqualified
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 The laymon spelling is just one of a few variations the Jesuit priests used.
But it appears that you’re someone who will reject any evidence with any justification as needed to protect your own worldview. But I understand confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance are powerful
@RonDuncan7@ryanswalters73@JordanSorensen9 The Baja peninsula hasnt been highly excavated. And there is evidence of large cities in the area, leaving behind massive stone walls that stood for millennia.
You also have to account that it’s a jungle, and jungles destroy archeology much faster than deserts (Bible regions)
@BereanHouse@jhaws1001 I think you think you’re making some great point with this.
All I see is you using a the words man who you believe served a devil to justify yourself.
Doesn’t that make you, under your own belief, a servant of the devil?
So I take it you’re going to repent?