@BMFiore2 modern code wants framing sized to resist deflection; far above the lumber’s actual carrying capacity. the old guys were just cheap; only use enough to just get the job done.
along with all the sketchy old stuff, there are some done very well. it’s the standards that changed
@BMFiore2 yeah, but old growth isn’t so much stronger than modern farmed lumber that it makes a significant difference. wood is a super resilient construction material, it will deflect a ton before failing. the old guys knew what they were doing, they just didn’t care about future sagging
@BMFiore2 yeah, i’ve learned through years of remodeling early 20th century homes that ideas about “the good old days” of construction are generally fantasy. lots of bad building practices and under-engineered framing specs back then
@JudgeCaulfield@BMFiore2@eigenrobot@AStratelates@selentelechia so, you’d build a new floor system on top of the balloon, just like adding a story to a platform structure. you also need to bridge the new/old with sheathing to tie them together. effectively, it’s the same thing as platform building, except the first layer is double height.
@eigenrobot@SlicinHammer@JudgeCaulfield@AStratelates@selentelechia *a lot* of homes in Mpls built between 1890-1930, essentially all balloon framed. for the project you imagine, it really doesn’t make much difference, it is an intrusive and expensive remodel either way. the biggest hurdle would be zoning height restrictions
@JudgeCaulfield@eigenrobot@AStratelates@selentelechia with a ballon frame, you would just need to start with the 3rd story floor system, there’s no reason you can’t build a platform on top of a balloon box. those old balloon frames are notoriously under-engineered, so the existing attic floor would likely need upgrading, regardless
@kenthesimp @eigenrobot kinda brings into question how, exactly, you feel about your own life, doesn’t it? without the seeking out of others to compare to beneficially, would there be a comfortable/confident relationship to yourself?
To play devil's advocate:
Native English speakers are like the spoilt rich kid.
Because they have it so easy -- they never develop any grit to learn languages.
Im kind of shocked how small total annual trade value of Lithium is. Chile, the world's largest exporter, hadnt topped $1 billion/yr yet in 2021. World oil trade is ~$1 trillion/yr. Lots of countries export $10s of billions/yr. Minerals demand for EVs just doesnt compare to oil