bullshit.
wilson stay closer to the greek word count and syntax + make it easier for modern audience to understand/experience what homer actually tried to deliver.
"menyimpang" is a stretch.
Ya, tapi versi terjemahan yang dipakai Nolan adalah karya Emily Wilson (2017) yang dihujat karena dianggap menyimpang terlalu jauh dari "aslinya". Tafsir Wilson lebih sederhana & membuang lemak bahasa sehingga tidak lagi berbunga² dan eufemistis.
Makanya filmnya jg kayak gitu.😅
@littlebylittl_ banyak abang-abang internasional ga suka karena ini translation homer pertama yang dibuat oleh wanita dan dia yang paling menghighlight misoginis terselubung di odyssey/iliad.
aku baru baca fagles sama wilson. fagles lebih emotional, wilson lebih mudah dipahami. both are good.
@littlebylittl_ haii, mau ngabarin kalo kata "menyimpang" sangat ga tepat untuk mendeskripsikan translation ini. emily wilson make bahasa yang mudah dipahami dan malah sangat mempertahankan jumlah kata dan syntax dalam bahasa yunani.
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10 anime to get to know me:
1. world trigger
2. magi! the labyrinth of magic
3. haikyu!!
4. assassination classroom
5. noragami
6. detective conan
7. owari no seraph
8. akatsuki no yona
9. kuroko no basketball
10. kungfu boy
yes, i havent watch any recent ones—stuck in 2010s era
10 animes to get to know me :
1. attack on titan
2. kimetsu no yaiba
3. toilet-bound hanako-kun
4. fruits basket
5. kimi ni todoke
6. spirited away
7. death note
8. sakamoto days
9. bungou stray dogs
10. owari no seraph
@Nomzagain and from this movie alone, i don't think anyone could guess what exactly his personality is like. his entire personality here is guilt/trauma.
now that the adrenaline has worn off, i do have one issue with ody. odysseus is originally much more complex. i liked how the film explored his guilt, yet i wish it also highlighted his cruel and cunning side. the nuance that achaeans thrive in moral grayness is lacking here.
dude, i genuinely enjoy it A LOT. idc what everyone gonna say, im just happy i get to exprience another odyssey retelling.
the odyssey was worth 3 hours of my day.
@no1stupidperson fair enough, yeah. and lmaooo i know exactly what certain scene is missing. shame tho, that certain scene would display both his cunning and arrogant side.
AND I FORGOT TO ADD, penelope's wit was also not displayed to its max. because a certain QUESTION didnt make it to the movie. she's also a bright queen who's not gonna give her trust easily yall.
@kebunrayamordor exactly. most his ruthless actions were actually there in the movie, but the nuance for the audience doesn't make us question him too much. homer ody left us with mixed feelings towards him.
but i understand it might clash with nolan's theme.
@XxKgere yeah, i think so too. this is obviously intentional and a big theme of his retelling—which is completely fine. above was not exactly a complain, it's just my personal preference 🙂↕️
@XxKgere yeah, i think so too. this is obviously intentional and a big theme of his retelling—which is completely fine. above was not exactly a complain, it's just my personal preference 🙂↕️
@fruitsavoy i've only read robert fagles and emily wilson. tbh, wilson one is easier to read, but i feel like fagles is more emotional and raw. jadi aku personally prefer fagles. both of them termasuk modern translation, jadi keduanya masih ga sulit untuk dipahami.
dude, i genuinely enjoy it A LOT. idc what everyone gonna say, im just happy i get to exprience another odyssey retelling.
the odyssey was worth 3 hours of my day.
@osterreich04 most of his ruthless actions were actually adapted in the movie, but the nuance is just not there. homer ody would give us more mixed feelings on his character bcs all his actions were always deliberate. he was often referred as "mastermind like zeus", "great tactician", etc.