東昇堅
Retired IT Consultant.
Interests:
Consciousness
Civil society
Existential risks
==Complexity
Disclaimer: I am not associated with any of the organizations.
The hard problem of society. Supplementary note.
Introduction
The original essay on the hard problem of society, accessible from https://t.co/bbxKN4qZCy (DOI: 10.13140/RG.2.2.18884.19845) has been significantly trimmed for the sake of avoiding being read using LLMs, the purpose of covering foundational principles only and against the recommendation of the co-author, who does not wish to be named as such.
This supplementary note serves the purpose of covering this gap and correcting my mistakes with plans to have supplementary examples of the societies of different levels with transition paths.
The original essay can be equally seen as consensus model creation, a phase transition solution to emergent properties for any non-equilibrium organized complexity of the 3rd degree, with base principals equally applicable to any of these systems.
More on https://t.co/Xa9yEjDwI5
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The phrase "without being open, you can't help those who are closed off or prevent the growth of chaos in dark corners" raises the idea of the need for openness as a prerequisite for assistance and control. Important concepts here:
Openness as a tool of influence. If a system (or person) is closed, it can neither help nor contain negative processes.
Focus on "dark corners." This refers to hidden, opaque areas where problems escalate due to a lack of visibility.
The connection between personal and systemic positions. To change a situation, one must be open to information and interaction.
Source:
Фраза «не будучи открытым — не помочь тем, кто закрыт и не предотвратить роста беспредела в тёмных уголках» поднимает идею про необходимость открытости как условия помощи и контроля. Важные смыслы здесь:
Открытость как инструмент влияния. Если система (или человек) закрыта, она не может ни помочь, ни сдержать негативные процессы.
Фокус на «тёмных уголках». Речь о скрытых, непрозрачных зонах, где из‑за отсутствия видимости нарастают проблемы.
Связь между личной и системной позицией. Чтобы менять ситуацию, нужно самому быть открытым к информации и взаимодействию.
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@Batman2242 why would they? it is a good pathway to implement 'basic' needs coverage for all in post scarcity economics with wider and less strict entry conditions until almost anyone benefits directly or via employments/subcontracts from it
@VraserX Should have learned a few sobering lessons from other experiments in the field, like Limitless AI, recently acquired by Meta… but there’s an unavoidable expansion and transformation of the entire privacy/companion/wearable landscape.
@algekalipso The most revealing part of the question of AI consciousness lies in defining it, measuring AI models, and then… self-reflecting using the same protocols for one’s own grades, after a deep look into the abyss of black mirrors of opened Pandora’s boxes.
@dadmatters_uk multi generational propagative effect that is rarely discussed or taken into account given usual short term political action policy horizons... would create a social violence blast on majority transition to single parent mother led no grandparents cohabitation influence.
@Rainmaker1973 nature copyleft... even without consideration of monozygotic twins... wide, but still limited phenotypes would create a real challenge in defining it meaningfully for practical applications
@IterIntellectus What’s the evolutionary purpose of hierarchy games within practical skill domains? Why did various signaling frameworks develop within them? And why do they seem to be collapsing in the information age? It feels like you understand how competition games are changing.
@rationalaussie Yeah, going to court... Should take one more step: AI-driven justice systems — judges, investigators, clerks — oriented toward mediation and restoring balance, not coercion and enforcement, while resisting system gaming and manipulation, taking inspiration from arbitration.
@LuizaJarovsky with competence and credibility varying significantly on individual basis, the whole profession is precisely described as authority gatekeepers. legal mafia would be a better and more honest description, aren't it?
@DegenBuIIish you really pushing the limits of the platfrom functionality, aren't you?
@grok how tag on spam should be handled within platform article's from end user side?
@algekalipso the very old balance whirlpool of multidimensional interlink of genetic traits and their environmental dependency expressions is just getting a bit more obvious within the informational age stage of specie development.
@flabbytofit99 agency scope needs to be kept in match with responsibility and abilities. such teaching example is about learned helpfulness, dependency for instructions in manipulative form. don't worry, they will learn exactly this and will use it back.
It is as bad as any tool; the problem lies in the exploitative and highly manipulative, addiction-forming platform approach, promoting the illusion of endless choice and the delusion of a probable potential to earn a living, while various content-monetizing agencies exploit naive, incoming models and easily outcompete solo ones.
It can be useful in understanding aspects of one’s own sexuality for everyone during the explorative stage, while knowing the psychological risks associated with it, as well as finding compatibility edges on the sexual front. However, it requires a societal change and psychological adaptations against platform exploitation.
Imagine potential partners mutually exchanging their OF profiles to understand their own potential sexual compatibilities and kink profiles. Would that result in more harmonious interaction pathways, on the level of: “Here is my OF — do you feel a resonance?”