I used to run MeDo at Baidu, a vibe coding product.
Vibe coding made everyone feel like a founder.
Most are not. They are demo collectors.
Building is cheap now. Getting one stranger to pay is still brutal.
I'm building Soloop to kill that illusion.
First dollars or nothing.
Most vibe-coded products aren’t ready for $1 of ad spend.
I gave our team a rough scale in a meeting:
A vibe-coded product is usually 1/10.
A product worth putting Google Ads behind is 8/10.
PMF is 10/10.
We already have coding agents and GTM agents. We still don’t have a testing agent we trust to sit between them and say, “Don’t buy traffic yet.”
Its job is straightforward:
- Can a new user finish the main workflow?
- Can they sign up, log back in, and pay?
- Did the product save the right result?
- If something breaks, can the agent show exactly where?
If the main flow fails, there’s no MVP. If signup, login, or payment fails, there’s no commercial MVP.
Browser agents can already perform most of these steps. We need a reliable pass/fail verdict, evidence for every failure, and a loop back to the coding agent.
Until then, GTM agents are just spending money to find bugs for us.
@coreyganim Hmm. 6 agents passing tells you almost nothing about the 7th.
Missing input, human approval, recovery, and wrong-destination cases should block release.
@michael_chomsky yup, multi-day agents exposed the real bottleneck:
the shared compute pool.
One runaway run shouldn’t quietly degrade every engineer’s experience.
@lennysan Fair. Though that CS + McKinsey + Series A AI PM is really shorthand for judgment under ambiguity. If the person doesn't exist, the training loop needs decisions, context, and outcomes together.
@arvidkahl Complaints can become product changes now.
The agent still has to check the real account before it says 'done.' That's how we caught blocked Reddit access and an unsaved Google targeting state after both workflows looked complete.
This week I thought two Soloop workflows were done: Reddit ops and Google Ads. Then we ran them on real accounts.
Reddit returned “blocked by network security.” Google showed five target locations but saved zero.
A few hours later, the workflows finally matched the screens.
Soloop now supports Reddit ops and Google Ads setup.
Real-account tests caught two failures: a Reddit session blocked at the network layer, and Google showing five targets while saving zero.
We added access and saved-state checks before either workflow can report completion.
@ycombinator@patrickc@collision@stripe Back at Baidu MeDo, fast builds were everywhere. Staying with the problem after the estimate proved wrong was rare, and AI still doesn’t compress that.
Agree. Apple understood this with the iPod.
“1,000 songs in your pocket” gave the company a clear user outcome before it became an ad line. The team could use that outcome to judge product decisions.
Without the same internal clarity, priorities drift, features point in different directions, and customers have to work out what the product is for.