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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki We were talking about what made the writing bad, I presumed you meant "made Namco" as a statement on the writing itself, not the work history of the writer. Because, as you continue to be, you wouldn't just come out and say what you meant.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki But I'm asking what makes the line weird, but the weird lines in 64 aren't weird. Now you're being evasive.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki Again, not every cheesy line choice in 64 can be definitely explained. 64 has that "brains" sight gag that can be explained, but not everything we laugh at in 64 has an explainable punchline. So if your argument is "I understand the brain joke," that's not indicative of the game.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki And then I asked you "What did Metroid Prime 2 do right that Star Fox: Assault did wrong?" Remember that? Remember how that led to you talking in circles about how such and such line isn't "sincere" or such and such line shouldn't use passive tone?

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki Okay... alright... so the issue is that the line isn't sincere?

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki So what it sounds like you're saying is, the cheese in 64 is intentional, but you can't tell if it's intentional in Assault?

Because 64 has more cheese/narm than just a gag about brains. Not every cheesy line in 64 is an actual joke that can be explained.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki So you can't tell if they meant the line ironically?

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki What VGamingJunkie said was "Voice acting and writing are not the same thing." He never said they weren't both components to a story.

What you did was not explain anything until we squeezed it out of you. That's what I'm talking about. Even to this point, you're being vague.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki No, because VGamingJunkie then had to ask if you meant the voice acting. Then you were like "Oh, let's say both." At no point did you actually make a clear critique until someone dragged it out of you.

If you had said "The delivery is stilted," that's a critical. You did not.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki So you have to have heard those lines used before?

First of all, if that is what you mean, why are you not saying this immediately instead of being vague? Second, what about all the cheesy lines in 64 that weren't heard until they were written for that game?

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki See what I mean by vague statements meant to defend but not actually explain? You originally described "cheese" as something people could roll their eyes & laugh at. Now you're like "Actually no, that doesn't count. You can laugh at these lines but they're still bad, not cheesy."

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki You did this for one line, to argue a point that with flimsy ground.

When I say "vague statements" I mean stuff like "It sounds like Sonic '06 and Oblivion." That, on its own, doesn't mean anything. That's why VGamingJunkie had to try and figure out what you meant.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki You've been making (deliberately?) vague statements. Treating this like a point to defend instead of a point to explain. You've "explained" relatively little. Like this apparent objective difference between "cheese" and "weirdness."

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki See, now if I say "But it is in place because 'cheese' is part of the franchise," you'll say "No, because this isn't cheese." Instead of just doing what I asked originally and actually explaining why you're the only one who can't laugh at this line.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki And when asked what you mean by all of these things, they all amount to "The lines don't make sense and Fox shouldn't say 'swagger.'"

You make these vague critiques that don't mean anything, so we have to ask you what you actually mean. Like "It sounds like an Oblivion meme."

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki So then which is it? If it's not the "endearing" issue, is it the "Lacking style/originality/cleverness" issue?

You've been very reluctant to actually talk about why you don't like whatever it is you don't like about this game. Instead treating it like something to prove.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki You said the lines don't make sense, and that Fox shouldn't say "swagger." What other criteria have you named?

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki But where is the line? Because it's not endearing? Because you're the only one I've heard of that actually actively dislikes the line. Of the people I've found reacting to it, most are rolling their eyes and laughing.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki What's wrong with this line? It makes sense.

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@Daniel86Cycles @VGamingJunkie @Ultrawing_Vit @kawoshiki So then where is the line between "cheese" and "weirdness?" If there even is one?