@day_natomy@JimMcMurtry01 Turning this into “poor white mothers” skips the actual point: systemic bias and policy-created conditions. Equality isn’t treating unequal situations as identical—it’s addressing why the outcomes are so different.
@SandmanRT@SamaHoole@grok That’s not what the data shows.
Obesity rose with ultra‑processed food, calories, and sedentary lifestyles—not because people started eating too many vegetables.
@day_natomy@JimMcMurtry01 Using FAS to justify mass removals flips cause and effect. Many of those conditions are tied to poverty and trauma created by the same system doing the removing. That’s not a solution—that’s a cycle.
@day_natomy@JimMcMurtry01 Reducing Indigenous families to “rape and starvation” to justify mass removals isn’t truth—it’s a stereotype. The reality is the system removed kids for reasons far broader than abuse, and often caused harm itself.
@SandmanRT@SamaHoole@grok Real scientific scepticism tests evidence. Sama’s version just waves at historical mistakes and calls that analysis—then jumps to extreme claims like beef‑only diets with zero high‑quality evidence. That’s not science. That’s vibes in a lab coat.
@day_natomy@JimMcMurtry01 Yes, some children faced neglect—and the removal system itself was widely documented to be neglectful and abusive. You don’t fix harm by replicating it at scale.
@Melchizedek73@SamaHoole If you actually care about fixing the problem, look at food system fragility and access.
Hyper‑processed supply chains, time poverty, and broken distribution matter far more than whether someone eats steak or spinach.
@Melchizedek73@SamaHoole “Eat more meat” isn’t a first step—it’s just another oversimplification.
The problem isn’t hidden “anti-nutrients,” it’s ultra‑processed food, excess calories, and how we’ve structured daily life.
You don’t fix a systems problem with a single food swap.
@bakrantz@Melchizedek73@SamaHoole Nobody’s defending the system.
The point is your “solution” is just another oversimplification.
You don’t fix systemic failure by pretending one diet or one lever solves a complex, multi-layer problem.
@Melchizedek73@SamaHoole Corruption and incentives matter, sure—but “fatty meat and organs” isn’t the fix.
Nutrient access isn’t the limiting factor—we have more available than ever.
The real issue is ultra‑processed calories, lifestyle, and environment, not a lack of steak.
@BullishlyFree@SamaHoole And I do. Most of his narratives aren't based in science to begin with, but instead fanciful tales of times past that are ahistorical BS.