SUN, Bin S.

Researcher at School of CS, PKU
(personal remarks & opinions only)

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

@ITNonsupport @thedatabunny Then earn IPswen: 1.2.3.4.0 😇

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@QieziJun @ygkkkg 120年都说早了。
看我前面说的理由。

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@sonialy0 Linux is already the apotheosis of his mission.

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@theydrick @windscribe IPv4 CGNAT steamrolls over.

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@AnupamHaldkar That's sufficient proof that IPv6 is not a correct design but more emperor's new clothes.

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@bexcran Correction of both points:
1. Most 4/5G cellular networks are dual-stack.
2. IPv6 is not 'widely used' in China. None of my apps work with IPv6-only.

Yes, I'm in China.

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@Dylansm88 @geerlingguy My 100Gbps E810-CAM2 NICs also knew it.

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@therobotbrain @geerlingguy or IPswen addresses:
1.2.3.4..1.5
....
Ref. https://t.co/Ubh1zw1rZX

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

@repkord @geerlingguy IPv4++ enter the room, https://t.co/Ubh1zw1rZX

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@cometaj2 @geerlingguy Agree. It's against logic & the basic law of technology:

https://t.co/Tt18Y7rvuK

[Bing Swen Sun @BingSwenSun]

On the two crucial aspects of the IPswen addressing approach towards the Next Generation IPv4 Internet:

(1) making full use of IPswen’s unique advantages in its bidirectional IPv4 compatibility; and

(2) avoiding conventional IPv6 groupthink.

For details
https://t.co/kOYtyue9tr

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@JelloRelish @geerlingguy IPv6 is neither cool nor interesting. It was designed in 1990s, a very old technology for even older 1980s problems: "end to end" connectivity...

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

@harari_yuval a.k.a. the "IPv6 CIR":

https://t.co/vMtOJa09fl

[Bing Swen Sun @BingSwenSun]

What is the IPv6 CIR (a myth):

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

it's famously known as the "IPv6 Groupthink" myth, an interesting but understandable tech cult that has done more bad than good.

We've already pictured it as a "heavy roof effect", assembling the ‘Our Boys Didn’t Die in Vain’ syndrome by @harari_yuval 😃

https://t.co/w0Tpy9rHTG

[Jeff Geerling @geerlingguy]

Holy cow people, I didn't even say I hate IPv6 in that tweet!

I didn't realize IPv6 vs v4 discussions result in flamewars worse than tabs vs spaces.

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

@geerlingguy The is famously known as the "IPv6 Groupthink" myth, an interest cult that has done more bad than good.

We pictured it as a "heavy roof effect" years ago:

https://t.co/w0Tpy9rHTG

[Bing Swen Sun @BingSwenSun]

IPv6 Roof:
'...to look at the big picture, and from historical perspective the following two important points borrowed from the historian Yuval Harari @harari_yuval are directly applicable..., namely, the “web of meaning” effect and the “our children didn’t die in vain” syndrome'

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@Ruth_Kant_ @geerlingguy Or perhaps try to have a look at IPswen:
https://t.co/Ubh1zw1rZX

[SUN, Bin S. @BinSW5]

Hard truth: IPv6 has been a second-class citizen on the public Internet from the beginning, and certainly it will remain so for the rest of my lifetime, or even the rest of this century.

Why? Because it is not and will never be the correct replacement of IPv6; —— IPswen is.

[Jeff Geerling @geerlingguy]

Today I disabled IPv6 on my home router entirely. There are (sadly) too many devices and services with obscure bugs when it's enabled, and I'm tired of playing whack-a-mole sysadmin just to keep a full IPv6 stack.

I'm not sure we'll ever see full IPv6 adoption.

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@geerlingguy Sure, IPv6 is a second-class citizen on the public Internet and certainly will remain so for the rest of our lifetimes (say the least)...

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According to the APNIC report, another two decades at least ahead for IPv4+CGNAT being the cash cow instead of IPv6.

https://t.co/wleDj9edlb

[mas.to / @kingslyj]

@njnrn @anurag_bhatia From APNIC presentation by a Director at DoT.

"All central and State government ministries and
departments, including its PSUs, shall start using IPv6
services by March-2012."

Running 14+ years late... only!

https://t.co/9X9bz16iFr

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@turtlecute33 Nil. IPv6 created more problems than it solved.

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Almost the same IPv6 *usability* here in China, no matter what "deployment/availability rates* the govt has been claiming.😂

[Anurag Bhatia @anurag_bhatia]

Ever wonder how many of Govt. of India websites have IPv6? Well, somewhere around 3.5%.

Here's a quick measurement using TLS Certificate transparency logs as the base for https://t.co/5mFCzEwQEO & https://t.co/IJAocrotkM domains.
https://t.co/oGSOvJZI61

#IPv6 #DNS #Websites