Something is getting clearer and clearer to me all the time.
There are actually three different populations in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hiding underneath the word “membership.”
Group 1: Internally governed disciples
They hear:
“You don’t need a rule for everything.”
and understand:
“I need to know Christ well enough that I will choose righteousness even when nobody tells me what to do.”
For these people, the way the church is currently governing and leading may actually be higher than the fundamentalist rule-based structure that historically governed social behavior within the church. But these people are rare.
Group 2: Rule-dependent performers
They hear:
“There isn’t a specific rule about this anymore.”
and understand:
“Therefore, it’s permissible.”
For these people, removing the rules like they have in FTSOY lowers the expected standard.
Group 3: Self-authorizing members
They hear:
“Seek personal revelation.”
and understand:
“My personal spiritual impression has authority over whatever the Church teaches.”
These are the Julie Hanks, Rosie Card, and similarly progressive members.
The church removed the guardrails and the membership hasn’t stepped up. We are in the sifting right now.
@nicoraytruth
I do not support pacing frontier models. If I am going to die at the hands of killer AI, I want it to be American, not Chinese. Buy American, Die American.
@LargeInStature_ On my first watch, I enjoyed it, because I saw the toned demigod as Brigham, which even he would find amusing.
But then I realised (from the lyrics) it was actually a crass portrayal of God and (most gallingly) Heavenly Mother.
Not ok. This should be our Charlie Hebdo.
i gave astra a robot, a paint brush, and a camera then asked it to paint the golden gate bridge in real life!
it figured out how to control the robot, and progressively got better throughout its attempts. the timelapse is sick
What baffles me isn’t that someone leaves the LDS Church. It’s when someone dismisses the faith as though it had nothing true to teach them, even while cherishing a life it helped them build.
With someone like Johnny Harris, the question I want to ask is not merely, “Why did you stop believing?” It is, “How much of the life you love was shaped by the faith you left?”
If your mission taught you discipline, resilience, and service; if your religious community cultivated your mind and encouraged your education; if that world brought you and your wife together and taught you to approach marriage and fatherhood as sacred responsibilities then surely those things belong in your assessment of the faith.
They are not incidental to the question. They are part of the evidence.
You are standing in the orchard with juice on your chin, and you want to tell me the tree is not real?
@johnnywharris
I just want Mormons to be Mormons.
Stop being ashamed of past doctrine. Stop auditioning for mainstream approval. Stop going soft.
You are a force of nature. You survived an extermination order. You survived a federal army sent to break you. They killed your prophet and you answered by building a kingdom in the desert. Your ancestors pulled handcarts through the snow and spoke in tongues in the temple. Be the pioneers. Embrace your past. Ask for the gifts again.
Nobody crossed the plains for a politically correct religion, and nobody will stay for one.
@suraj_sharma14 This suffers from the same logical fallacy / cognitive blind spot as similar communist declarations, like “property ownership is theft!”
@suraj_sharma14 But the price of “admission” still requires compute, which someone has to pay for eventually….
You can take an open-source model (almost as powerful as the leading models) and run it on a VPS, and you’re going to pay almost as much for that as you would Claude/ChatGPT.
Soooooo
A Catholic Fr. says, “You can’t have a direct relationship with God. It must be mediated through me. And instead of devoting my time to becoming a purer vessel, I’m going to play defence against those with compelling claims against this enterprise (because my stipend depends on it).”
Moses said, “Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord’s people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!”
Joseph Smith said, “God hath not revealed any thing to Joseph, but what he will make known unto the Twelve & even the least Saint may know all things as fast as he is able to.”
You, sir, do not understand Joseph, or Mormonism. Joseph was not presenting himself as the permanent spiritual middleman between God and everyone else. He saw himself as opening a path that others were expected to walk. His model was not “the prophet receives revelation so that you do not have to.” It was: I have learned how to receive revelation, so that you may learn, so that you can say “we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.”
If you were half the expert on the Mormon Church you purport to be, you would know this, because every modern talk, lesson, and article is practically screaming the injunction towards personal revelation — this is fruits of Joseph Smith Jnr. — and that is why you are so threatened by him.
Regardless, it beckons you. You’d just need a new job. You see, you want to believe this — that God can speak to you. You want to believe it for yourself. We (and every true Prophet who ever lived) just want/wanted it for the whole world.
You represent the Apple Inc. of religion — the walled garden, requiring everything to be mediated through you.
We are open-source software.
A church state that convinced people the Bible is complete and infallible, has way more power to control people than Joseph Smith. For there is no place to question authority when the book is complete and infallible, Joseph Smith taught people to think for themselves and ask God directly. Exactly what a true prophet would do.