Whatever happened to the "rights aren't pie, equal rights for others doesn't mean less for you." If you view women fighting for their rights based on sex-based oppression takes away from trans women, you should ask why they have a say over 50% of the population's experiences
God you guys are so funny lmao. Anyways calling out misogyny, pedophiles, and male violence isn't terfy because my feminism will always include trans men. For some reason women's rights affect them? ✌️ good luck
@minjokyoexit@bowobzzz Scrolling her reposts and you're not wrong.
Kinda hard to reconcile her statements of being trans inclusive and only having an issue with "angry bisexuals" with the blatant terf shit she's reposting.
@M1nSvngpremacy Oh for sure. I always encourage more events, but people have said they don't think there's enough interested. What seems like a small community right now might actually be much larger if they see you openly holding events. Ours started small, like 5 regulars- then grew to 20-30+
I used to help organize local lesbian events. We compromised- could bring your bf to the public events, but not private ones where we reserved a space. Bi women still got hostile about this and we decided to not host anymore. Their harassment made a city lose its only wlw events
You’re boyfriend doesn’t belong in sapphic spaces, you can bring your boyfriend to the queer bar, but not to an event specifically for sapphics “other people can have their partners” yes because their partner is apart of that community too, You’re boyfriend isn’t.
@M1nSvngpremacy Yeah. We had some issues with not including trans men, but they understood. We had help starting our events, so we would offer them the same advice for if they wanted to make a group. But we shouldn't have to give up our space because a different community has none. Start more!
@M1nSvngpremacy It sounds like you had actual sapphic events which are wholly inclusive of wlw, maybe. We were a friend group of lesbians that wanted to start a lesbian community, but also tried to include other wlw due to no sapphic only events in our city- only gay men, trans, or entire lgbt+
@AyylmaoWewlad Unfortunately that is what happened and why we got too exhausted to want to deal with hosting anymore. She got talked to twice about bringing him, and the second time was when she said, verbatim "oh he's nb now"
Aka not even respecting the new identity herself
Just wait until people find out I was a hardcore TRA years ago during this, until the same situations like this post where everything gets taken out of context to push some different narrative. So thank you for pushing me to look into sex-based oppression and feminism more 🥰
Anyways is why you see a push from some LGBT to separate to LGB and TQNB+. I said "bf" and people already assumed that meant trans women. Tbh it's transphobic that your mind would jump to that conclusion immediately instead of reading what's actually being said
@s765201618 At some point though, we can only be so accommodating before it starts to affect the purpose of our group. Sometimes people DO need to work on their own issues instead of expecting everyone to make exceptions for them
@s765201618 Yeah. In our case it was people claiming they had such bad anxiety they couldn't handle being in crowded spaces without their bf, and I can see being anxious about that. And ofc it was fine at our events on the beach and such, but not ones that were in private venues
@Amalka_diary@HadeanTide A little. We assumed it was just people who had been mostly in online groups and didn't know how to interact with irl spaces. We have been talking about hosting again soon though, we want lgbt events that aren't only at bars :)
@minjokyoexit I'm not the one who read "bf" and "he/him" pronouns and started thinking about trans women. Why wouldn't you think of trans men first? That's your internalized transphobia, not mine
We went on haitus because hearing people arguing more than appreciating a safe space made it not a safe space anymore for the intended demographic. Trans women (if sapphic) were included, as were NB. No one said the bfs were dangerous either. Don't project onto me lol
If we can't call out the poor behavior from people who are within our own community, then the people who don't want to deal with poor behavior will simply stop supporting each other and the community fractures.
No, we allowed trans women. But it is nice to see that literally any criticism of poor behavior from your fellow LGBT community will have people making up lies instead of trying to solve it. If you ever wonder why LGBT feels fractured and contention for one another: this is why
@playtherivoli I wouldn't call them enemies per se, but it IS a weird level of entitlement to think that you can bring your bf into a private wlw event just because he's dating a bi woman. Lately LGBT tends to focus more on individual's feelings over the community's wellbeing and actual purpose
@ninafromcanada These people act exactly like conservative's against women who fight for their rights and yet they think they're on the correct side of history. I'd say it's crazy that they can't recognize the similarities- but I think their mental illnesses shield them from A LOT of thought
Look how they have romanticised this headline. Woman dies days after her partner is found dead.
Only when you read the article does it tell you Zoe Marie Dixon was bludgeoned with a hammer by her partner and it took her 6 days to die in hospital
He ran off and killed himself