@Criss_Crossv2 I actually completely agree which I appreciate is a slight contradiction given my post. I think my concern is that he feels like a bit of a passenger/turn over machine for large spells of games and then it's the trade off vs the G/A.
Being overly picky perhaps
Really can't make my mind up on Rogers - ultimately the numbers speak for themselves but there's something about the overall performances that leave a lot to be desired.
With that said, you cant argue with the G/A numbers so long as it sustains.
@Adam_cfc8 He just seems like a moments player but I still feel I'm yet to see an entire 90 where he's involved - then as you say, when he's off it then he's just a turnover machine.
My favourite aspect of his game (outside the G/A) is the physicality, we've missed that in attack.
Does someone have a video of this? Because not only does Dermot just outright lie at the start, he then contradicts that later on but not before he gets the rules completely wrong in the middle.
Dermot Gallagher on the Palmer foul:
โThe referee gives a foul. That is what he gives. O'Nien completes the action when he is in the box. Once he gives the first foul, that is it. What happens afterwards, he can only take action if he deems there is serious foul play. That is what he fed back. What he has to do is, when he is talking to VAR, he has to say who he thinks is the player.
It is O'Nien's boot in the penalty area. The argument is that if he is on the line, it is a penalty. But it is O'Nien's boot; you can't see the ball.ย
O'Nien goes second. VAR said Ahoka went first and he is the first offender.ย
They didn't stop the game. The game went on.โ [sky]
We have a referee pundit on TV saying the ref gave a foul when he didnโt. What happened to research before going on air. Seems like a desperate scramble to defend the indefensible.
@ChrisCFC1990 On one hand I agree (hence the below par aspect) but he's also being asked to work miracles with very little options around him.
what I can't excuse is the poorness in execution when it comes to his finishing and final ball right now
My devil's advocate for Palmer is that he is at his absolute best when he has a striker he can play off and who will create space for him.
Without that he's largely doubled up on with the expectation he beats 5 men to score, teams aren't scared of Neto/Welbeck in the same way.
Cole Palmer's performance today was absolutely shambolic and for him to walk down the tunnel as if he put a real shift in... That is everything that's wrong with some of the mentality of this group.
The less said about his performances over the past month, the better.
@chrle18 It's either that or they give themselves flexibility to defend at every opportunity with however they want to interpret the rules at that moment
There's very little plug & play because players are having to adapt to the system, the team, the league with immediate expectations.
No new player is ever coming into something settled, it's just constant putting out fires, learning on an ever changing job.
I genuinely feel like the only way you can deal with modern day injury numbers is to have consistency over a number of years in both leadership & squad.
Consistently relying on 18-21 year olds in their maiden PL season to replace key players is problematic for both club & player
Feels unreasonably boring to have expectations of competing with either key players or players in key positions injured so often. The core is completely blurred.
Then it falls to quality backups. Then its x player is too good to be backup.
In an iron grip of chasing stability.
@MG09123 I don't know if we think keeping quiet will see us rewarded in the future but all it does it allow us to get fucked over in silence moving forward.
Rightly or wrongly, the only way to instigate change is to be vocal about it, just ask Fergie.
@ThatMunichNight tried doing some football quizzes the other day and could barely name a player from Sevilla or Valencia, long gone are the FM days where I'd know the Cagliari 25 man squad inside out.
The problem with the attack, especially without JP, is that it's often 3/4 people trying the same thing for themselves with very few trying to create space and opportunities for the other.
Now he should obviously be doing better, he's way below par, but there's so many times he's on the ball and I can't see a single outlet
Nico would run in behind and create space for Palmer to run into. JP occupies and provides an outlet. Everyone else just stands and waits
@ExpectedChelsea Said similar in a thread I posted, the teams that do well in this league these days are the ones who are consistent and stick through the tough periods (Arsenal, Brighton, Villa).
Very few clubs who chop & change like the old days are doing well as a result.
@CFC12thMan I think that's a very fair point and appreciate the balance is tough for sure.
I'd almost want the first convo to take place in public with the latter taking place behind closed doors
1. Incredibly disappointing from Alonso, when will we stop rolling over and letting PGMOL fuck us?
2. Suggests Colwill is very much in the dog house right now.