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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden Ok Meghan I’m just saying that you misinterpreted me and also said some dumb shit.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden Ok so then you’re just wrong. The right being concerned with “great replacement” is about demographic replacement, not population decline.

The paper talks about fixing population decline. Not helping birth rates like “the right is very concerned with solving for”.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden Ok I’ll spell it out for you.

The right is concerned with white (native in Europe, which is what I was thinking about), birth rates being lower than the immigration rate + non white birth rates “being replaced”. That is not what the paper is saying migration will solve.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden When I said European that’s just a short way to say white people in Europe. Don’t get distracted.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden The contention is you were trying to argue that the paper was saying it would increase birthrates, which is “what the right is scared of”. That’s just simply either dumb to say or dishonest. I can explain why if u want.

European means white and no one is trying to hide that.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden We’re talking past other a bit. when I say native I’m talking about Europe. In the US, the right would argue they are native but I would disagree.

And I don’t agree with ur interpretation. They’re asking if migration can offset the decline. The key word is offset.

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@leopardot123 @sophiemeaden Well, that’s not really the argument I’m here to make. But to be honest, my political stance is a bit unique. I’m a nativist and that stance applies universally. So the answer to your question is nothing.

Was this paper about non EU countries?

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@leopardot123 @sophiemeaden I think it’s not the best argument to make on their part but I get the intention is to just refute the OP insinuating that it’s all a conspiracy theory. I hope that makes sense.

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@leopardot123 @sophiemeaden Yes I’ll agree there that the part that is still missing is the whole conspiracy aspect of the great replacement theory. There is still no evidence for that. But the fact that white people will become minorities at current migration levels is real.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden No, the paper says that replacement migration will offset the decline in the native birth rates.

The right is concerned with “native” share of the population, and native birthrates by extension.

That’s a dishonest interpretation, or at the least just uninformed.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden You’re being obtuse, or I do not think you understand my original comment. I was not commenting on whether or not it’s good / bad, I’m saying that the UN paper acknowledges the existence of replacement migration. That’s like the central tenant of great replacement theory.

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@a_luffa @leopardot123 @sophiemeaden ?

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@leopardot123 @sophiemeaden They aren’t using it to support their argument that replacement migration is bad, they’re posting that to refute the claim it isn’t real.

Until recently, the popular progressive position was to deny the great replacement theory, and say that those fears were unfounded.

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@m4rta4_ @alexmwangi0 @PopularFront_ It’s different when Russia is claiming moral high ground over Ukraine and using nazification of Ukraine to justify their invasion.

So it’s not an apples to apples thing. It would be dishonest to frame it that way.

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@AlbaAdventureNY @NotifyNYC Yeah I thankfully stuck around

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@Chadfoodme @RyanShazierFan @NotifyNYC It went by just now

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@Tieganloveskuna @BrazilBBW @EFCevie @joeyahhhhh it’s a bad faith argument she’s making. Which unfortunately means it’s more than just calling out sexual harassment. Imo it’s in some way to minimize the grooming gangs issue bc it’s a proxy issue for immigration. Thats my interpretation tho.

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@Tieganloveskuna @BrazilBBW @EFCevie @joeyahhhhh Right but why even bring up grooming gangs at all? She’s making a political statement. you don’t need to invoke grooming gangs to say sexual harassment is bad. Idk why you’d say that unless ur trying to be political.

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@Tieganloveskuna @BrazilBBW @EFCevie @joeyahhhhh She is arguing in bad faith. Indirectly defending because she is trying to make it an all men thing when grooming gangs is not just an all men thing.

Like why are we comparing bar creeps to industrial strength child rapists?