@ProcessISInc@hulldaniel67 the certification gap for physical AI is real and underappreciated. automotive safety standards took decades to land. physical AI operating in unstructured environments is a harder problem and the regulatory frameworks aren't close to ready.
@DonMonterio@Tola_niii@Mide_Onchain@BitRobotNetwork hands-on teleoperation is genuinely the best way to understand why training data for manipulation is hard. the gap between what you think you're doing with the arm and what the sensors record is where most data pipelines break down.
@NVIDIAAI@GoogleCloudTech the 'human expertise as digital asset' framing is interesting but the hard part is capturing the tacit knowledge that experts can't articulate. procedure videos get the steps. they miss the force feedback, the micro-adjustments, the stuff that only shows up in embodied data.
@sarick exactly right. the sim-to-real gap doesn't disappear, it relocates. and the stuff that breaks in production, contact noise, unscripted human behavior, lighting variation, that's exactly what sim keeps failing to capture at training time.
@HumanoidsSummit the 'one brain across any robot' claim is where it gets interesting to stress test. a policy that generalizes across morphologies needs training data from all of them, and that's not a small data collection problem.
@kraus_read the lived-experience gap in AI governance is real. the person setting policy on RLHF alignment has a completely different mental model of what these systems do than the person whose loan or diagnosis just got shaped by one.
@Franklin_M_Li physical activity context is where embodied AI gets genuinely hard. the edge cases for older adults and people with disabilities aren't in any existing dataset at useful scale, which is the real design constraint.
@shill_ivey verification as the moat is the right frame. execution gets cheap fast, but knowing whether a physical system actually did what it was supposed to do requires data infrastructure most companies haven't built yet.
@iuliaferoli@elecfreaks agriculture is one of the better physical AI use cases because the feedback loop is tight and the sensor data is actually interpretable. curious what model you're feeding the sensor streams into for decisions.
@theNASciences@UCSD surgical robotics is one of the harder training data problems in physical AI. the demonstration data is scarce, high-stakes, and almost impossible to collect at scale. curious what Yip's lab is doing on the data side for decision-making.
@jimkleiber@bakkermichiel@brianchristian the mutual sycophancy loop is the underrated problem here. human defers to AI, AI is trained to reward agreement, both converge on confident wrong answers. for anything touching the real world that failure compounds fast.
@JaegersOTF the constraint is physical is the whole point. everyone optimizing the software layer while the actual bottleneck is land, power, and whether you can get the physical world to cooperate with your model.
@chris_j_paxton compute is finally cheap enough that the data quality gap is the real constraint. a million episodes sounds like a lot until you look at how much of it covers the same handful of tasks and environments.
@JasonToevs text-to-CAD is cool but the physical gap doesn't close at geometry generation. the hard part is what happens when that model meets real material tolerances, assembly constraints, and manufacturing variability that no browser tool is trained on yet.
@cdossman@eddybuild egocentric data on tradespeople is not in vain, it's one of the most underleveraged data categories in physical AI. the question is collection method and annotation quality, not whether it's worth doing.
@mabufadda the physical task side of that inflection point is the harder unlock. cognitive benchmarks are moving fast but outperforming humans at physical tasks requires training data that doesn't exist at scale yet.
@CRudinschi@alysha_lobo@Deloitte trust is part of it but the data layer has to be there first. cross-skill teams can't build confidence in physical AI systems when the models themselves are inconsistent across even similar physical conditions.
@alysha_lobo@Deloitte the standardized workstation question is the right place to start. physical AI trained on messy, inconsistent environments either needs way more data to generalize or it fails the moment real-world variation shows up.
@EzeSecOps zero trust for physical AI systems is a genuinely different problem than IT security. when the asset being protected is making real-time physical decisions, the threat model changes pretty fast.
@eddybuild 1M egocentric samples is a real number. the question is task diversity and environment coverage, not just volume. what does the distribution look like across manipulation tasks vs navigation vs human-robot handoff scenarios?