@freebird359@BovyMaltz The framing of this particular debate as it has developed over the last few days on Twitter has been very silly. The expectation that people emotionlessly engage in debates over whether women are worthy of having a say in their economic and political situation is deeply stupid.
@agraybee My T shirt that says AIPAC is a shady conspiracy that secretly pulls the strings of every major organization is raising a lot of questions etc
It remains an incredibly grim but admittedly very bleakly funny running bit that we got an administration obsessed with LETHALITY and WARFIGHTERS and then almost immediately had one of the most humiliating defeats in American military history
Everything in this debate makes me feel like Milton Friedman trying to explain a pencil. Housing in cities is expensive because many people want to live in them and the supply of housing does not keep up. That's it, that's the tweet.
Yeah, the fact that blue states/cities are so expensive is, to some extent, itself proof that, on balance, they’re well-governed.
Even a restricted supply wouldn’t result in sky-high prices if people didn’t want to live here.
In the interest of fairness, I have made the (tongue in cheek?) observation several times that we should probably stop electing men for a while because they all turn out to be sex predators, so I am not totally innocent here.
If nothing else, it's extremely funny that Twitter has spent much of today fighting about women's suffrage (sort of) when Donald Trump is the president of the United States.
@MusingsOfYouth I also feel like I'm missing half of your tweets because you're QTing and then talking to yourself, so apologies for repeating things you've already said.
@MusingsOfYouth I don't know how you read the chart you presented, but it looks to me like men are fluctuating around a mean while women had a noticeable change around 2014. Though like you say, everyone moved left around 2016, so it's hard to totally decompose.
@MusingsOfYouth It's 18-29 year olds, which isn't even a full generation of people. I think you're being a little grandiose and, again, I don't think we have much evidence that this is enduring vs. something weird that happened because the GOP lost its mind.
@MusingsOfYouth To be fair, it's a massive bifurcation among one subset of the population. It's absolutely relevant to wonder if it's a blip or a continuing trend, and I think you're way too quick to assume it's some new immutable law of gender relations.
@MusingsOfYouth I'm interested to see how this plays out over the next few years. I don't think it's an accident that you see women get much more liberal at the same time that Donald Trump became the dominant face of conservatism.
@midnightbaby79 Your statement applies pretty cleanly to democratic governance overall, and maybe you do think that liberalism was wrong about democracy, but I guess I don't think that's very consistent with American citizenship.
Classic wayne post:
1. Factually incorrect (gender gap is like 10 points and pretty stable)
2. Folksy “just sayin” implication that an extremely fringe hyper fascist position is “ordinary” or the kind of thing normal people think about
3. The dumbest thing you’ll ever read
I’m not even super right wing on questions of suffrage. I’m certainly willing to entertain all kinds of arrangements. But what I believe pretty strongly is that there are no intellectuals remaining on the left with respect to this stuff. I just literally don’t know how you can watch us speed run into having a girls party and a boys party and still have basically no introspection about the intersection of gender and politics beyond just, “patriarchy bad.”
Like, never, even in your darkest moments, even when you’re alone on a desert island and no one can see you or hear you and there’s no risk of you getting in trouble, do you ever think critically about the consequences of universal suffrage? Do you literally have no critiques? Do you genuinely believe there are no downsides? Will you not allow yourself to have any ordinary thoughts at all?
@jamespthomas92@lnstantkarma@Lilonion7@mattyglesias I think he's saying girls vs boys is bad, you're saying he's actually just saying it's something we have to think about. Either way, no one has told me why I need to care.
@jamespthomas92@lnstantkarma@Lilonion7@mattyglesias No, I said I don't agree WITH HIM that it's worth taking seriously. I'm saying he hasn't done the work to make me care. He is begging the question in the most traditional way that one does so.
@jamespthomas92@lnstantkarma@Lilonion7@mattyglesias You are kind of impossible to talk as you insist on slipping around actual points. This, I think, is why you feel such affinity for him, I guess.
You wanted to know what question was being begged, I told you, you rephrased the question a little, I noted it's still being begged.
@jamespthomas92@ls_fin@mattyglesias I didn't accuse you of repeating his position, I accused you of arguing the same way he does, by insisting everyone else has to justify why they don't want to discuss something rather than giving us a reason to discuss it in the first place.