Courage In Red

The real information on the Surrey Police Service, Surrey RCMP, and the transition.

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[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@87CR604 @CraigatThelist Correction, $100’s of millions and potentially billions coming up.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

So all your talk about the lateral troop at PRTC being full and the RCMP hired a messily 11 Constables.

[KEEP NDP’s SPS Accountable @keep_bc]

@courage_red @butcherboys We have confirmed RCMP lateral troop for Aug is full and remount streamlined.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

How did I miss this. Great point.

So where are all those members that returned to West Van. And Abby, and New West?

Infact the only people that left SPS received promotions back in their muni departments.

[HereforFear @FearHerefor]

@courage_red I thought these were classes of 24 experienced members...the majority of which were SPS...guess not. 🤣 I also don't hear KTRIS complain when the caption says some of the Troup will be deployed into ERT/Federal Policing...what does Ivan usually say "sweet heart deal"...

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

So you rather waste it on Ottawa’s RCMP?

[KEEP NDP’s SPS Accountable @keep_bc]

@GregviiGreg @tejpreetsahota @blueoil23 @Ironhors88 @Local1271 @connect_surrey @surreyconnect_ @brendalockebc By not wasting $35 to $40 M on McCallum’s SPS.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

With all your expertise with Policing and operational planning, your lack of confidence in the SPS plan is a real nail in the coffin.

[Hilary Thomas @HilaryT75527886]

@OliverLilah @courage_red @keep_bc @blueoil23 @WalterRJohnsto1 I think your fooling yourself if you think Doug doesn't have control. He pushed for Lipinski to be hired by SPB & meets with him regularly. And as I'm sure your aware I do NOT support SPS as it's been a flawed plan from Day 1 @keep_bc @DebbieTheilmann

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

Yes, and the RCMP can’t supply those resources. Over half of all RCMP troops at Depot have been cancelled. All troops that were not cancelled are only graduating less than 12 Cadets. And Yes Walter, they are approved to run 24 person troops, not 12.

[Walter R Johnstone @WalterRJohnsto1]

@OliverLilah @HilaryT75527886 @courage_red @keep_bc @blueoil23 What's needed for our city is adequate resources for the rcmp - something McCallum hasn't provided. Now we're paying for a watered down version and getting 0 in return. SPS has proven, multiple times not to be progressive and is definitely not what the citizens want or can afford

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

Can you please show proof of this.

[Walter R Johnstone @WalterRJohnsto1]

@courage_red awww Coward - you say the nicest things to me (sometimes I blush). The truth is, 3 weeks before the 2018 election McCallum told his coalition to stop talking about the transition as it wasn't resonating with folks. TRUTH.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

How is SPS supposed to prove it’s full worth when it isn’t POJ? It has to operate in accordance with all RCMP practices and policy.

[Walter R Johnstone @WalterRJohnsto1]

@OliverLilah @HilaryT75527886 @courage_red @keep_bc @blueoil23 What's needed for our city is adequate resources for the rcmp - something McCallum hasn't provided. Now we're paying for a watered down version and getting 0 in return. SPS has proven, multiple times not to be progressive and is definitely not what the citizens want or can afford

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

His idea was one many, many people agreed with. Enough people to get him into the Mayors seat.

He had an overall idea. The implementation of that idea and the details were left to the SPS and the experienced Police Officers that manage it.

[Hilary Thomas @HilaryT75527886]

@courage_red Agreed. Just remember he's the person who drummed up the idea of SPS & the chair of the SPBoard. Maybe now you will realize why the citizens of Surrey are not happy. @keep_bc @blueoil23 @WalterRJohnsto1

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@keep_bc Your post makes me wonder if you have ever completed anything in your life.

No plan remains unchanged once it is set in motion. How you continually cling to V1.0 details is sad and shows how tone deaf your organization is.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

This is worse than listening to L. Ron Hubbard. He has lost his marbles.

https://t.co/Fd2J4iSU3m

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@HilaryT75527886 @BCRCMP Welcome aboard? Who are you to welcome anyone to the RCMP. You are an outsider. You really don’t get it, do you,

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

The KTRIS trolls never confirmed how many were in the troop. They just confirmed it was “100% full.”

A lot of smoke, mirrors and announcements over 11 hires. They would never run a troop of 11, always a round number. So the question is, was it supposed to be 24?

[HereforFear @FearHerefor]

@courage_red I thought these were classes of 24 experienced members...the majority of which were SPS...guess not. 🤣 I also don't hear KTRIS complain when the caption says some of the Troup will be deployed into ERT/Federal Policing...what does Ivan usually say "sweet heart deal"...

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@HilaryT75527886 @WalterRJohnsto1 @OliverLilah @keep_bc @blueoil23 Enough with the rhetoric. Put a number on it. Or explain how the RCMP would do this.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@WalterRJohnsto1 @OliverLilah @HilaryT75527886 @keep_bc @blueoil23 Ok Walter, I’ll play your game. If Doug approved 200 more RCMP members for Surrey tomorrow, how long would it take the RCMP to fill those spots?

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

The KTRIS trolls refuse to judge what goes on in the RCMP, and that’s why KTRIS needs to go.

[Jimmy James @Jimmyjimbo2021]

@You_wont_do_it @HilaryT75527886 @courage_red @keep_bc @WalterRJohnsto1 @blueoil23 My post was related to sheer quantity. KTRIS supporters vilify a single SPS member without charge approval. Meanwhile RCMP members have a plethora of incidents where members are charged, and convicted of a myriad of issues over decades.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

@keep_bc Then why 11? As the RCMP always run courses with even numbers, could they not have found a 12th person? So 11 really was the end of the line for people willing to join?

Disappointing. I fully expect 24 in the next troop, as you claim there will be.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

So @keep_bc, are you saying the RCMP is not taking 6-8 months to process security clearances for dispatchers in Surrey, or are you saying that the dispatchers are ok waiting 6-8 months and don’t go find other work?

[KEEP NDP’s SPS Accountable @keep_bc]

@courage_red Its the work load and making less than other dispatchers in the region . Dispatchers having been leaving for 18 months. But hey keep spinning as the election is closing in :). 🗳 . Board Chair McCallum is really knocking it out of the ball park right now.

[Courage In Red @courage_red]

Wrong, biggest challenge is hiring due to RCMP incompetence. How can you let a security clearance unit get that far behind?

Yes Surrey OCC staff make less than their counterparts (like the RCMP did for 5 years) but it is not the biggest challenge.

[KEEP NDP’s SPS Accountable @keep_bc]

@courage_red Biggest challenge has been folks with years of experience leaving due pay and work conditions. McCallum diverted way too much money to failed SPS. Maybe he will hire them at his new 60k stadium.