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Rumours sold more than 40 million copies.. in 2018 Fleetwood Mac fired the man who wrote Go Your Own Way.. right before a world tour.. and he went to court saying it cost him at least $12 million.

He had been in the band for 43 years.

Lindsey Buckingham joined Fleetwood Mac in 1975, alongside Stevie Nicks.

Two years later came Rumours, the album that made all of them rich.

By 2018 the five of them were preparing to go back on the road together.

They went without him.

"This was not something that was was really my doing or my choice," he says.

The court record:

January 2018: the band played together at a tribute event in New York.

April 2018: Fleetwood Mac announced the tour without Buckingham. Two other guitarists were brought in to replace him.

October 2018: he sued his bandmates in Los Angeles.

His claim: breach of fiduciary duty and breach of an oral agreement, with damages put at no less than $12 million in lost tour earnings.

December 2018: the case was settled. The terms were never made public.

The case for Lindsey: he had helped build the band's catalog for four decades, and he says the decision to remove him came from inside the group.

The case for the band: they say the tour plans and the working relationship could no longer hold together, and the members chose to continue without him.

Then the twist.

In public, he barely talked about the money at all.

Standing on a stage months after the split, he did not mention a dollar figure. He talked about what he called "factions within the band that had lost their perspective."

If you have ever been pushed out of something you spent your life building, you know the paycheck is rarely the part that stays with you.

In the video below, Lindsey Buckingham says the firing "harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build."

After 43 years, should a band be able to tour without one of the people who wrote its biggest songs?

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@DemonJin86848 crawford got $142 million over 7 years from the Red Sox in 2010 and his label opened with 15k for her

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@kadsxr one guitarist and one songwriter, they basically had to split him in half to replace him

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Rumours sold more than 40 million copies.. in 2018 Fleetwood Mac fired the man who wrote Go Your Own Way.. right before a world tour.. and he went to court saying it cost him at least $12 million.

He had been in the band for 43 years.

Lindsey Buckingham joined Fleetwood Mac in 1975, alongside Stevie Nicks.

Two years later came Rumours, the album that made all of them rich.

By 2018 the five of them were preparing to go back on the road together.

They went without him.

"This was not something that was was really my doing or my choice," he says.

The court record:

January 2018: the band played together at a tribute event in New York.

April 2018: Fleetwood Mac announced the tour without Buckingham. Two other guitarists were brought in to replace him.

October 2018: he sued his bandmates in Los Angeles.

His claim: breach of fiduciary duty and breach of an oral agreement, with damages put at no less than $12 million in lost tour earnings.

December 2018: the case was settled. The terms were never made public.

The case for Lindsey: he had helped build the band's catalog for four decades, and he says the decision to remove him came from inside the group.

The case for the band: they say the tour plans and the working relationship could no longer hold together, and the members chose to continue without him.

Then the twist.

In public, he barely talked about the money at all.

Standing on a stage months after the split, he did not mention a dollar figure. He talked about what he called "factions within the band that had lost their perspective."

If you have ever been pushed out of something you spent your life building, you know the paycheck is rarely the part that stays with you.

In the video below, Lindsey Buckingham says the firing "harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build."

After 43 years, should a band be able to tour without one of the people who wrote its biggest songs?

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@DemonJin86848 probably, a written deal would’ve made it a contract case instead of an argument about what everyone remembered

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@eweqss1431 that’s the wildest part, one of the biggest bands ever and his place in it was never on paper

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@theosterlingx california is community property, so anything earned during those 13 years starts at a 50/50 split unless a prenup says otherwise

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@zovarynx snitching was the best trade he ever made

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Mike Love says his name was left off 35 Beach Boys songs.. he sued his own cousin, Brian Wilson.. and in 1994 a jury agreed, with damages reported at around $13 million.

The man on the other side was family. So was the man who sold the songs.

Mike co-founded the Beach Boys with his cousins, the Wilson brothers.

Their father, Murray Wilson, sold the band's song catalog.

Whose name was in the credits decided who got paid for those songs.

The court record:

1960: middle-class kids growing up a few miles from the beach in Southern California.

Late November 1963: Mike and Brian wrote a sad, haunting song together. The next morning came the news from Dallas.

1966: Brian spent several months building Good Vibrations across four or five L.A. studios with The Wrecking Crew.

Mike's job was the lyrics. He put it off until the drive to the session.

"I dictated a poem while I was driving in our XKE to the studio," he says.

Good Vibrations was one of the songs he later fought over.

1994: a jury found Mike was a co-writer.

$13 million: the award, according to press reports.

The case for Mike: the words were his, and for decades the credit and the royalties that come with it were not.

The case for Brian: by Mike's own account, the record took Brian months of tracks, tempos and experiments. Mike wrote his part during one car ride.

Then the twist.

Mike says family parties in his house always came back to singing, even with relatives who were feuding.

"You could have somebody who didn't pay somebody back," he says. "But music was the bond that brought everybody together."

That harmony, he says, "had nothing to do with music or fame or fortune."

If you have ever made something with family and never put it on paper, you already know how this one ends up in court.

In the video below, Mike Love says: "I dictated to my then-wife, Suzanne, who was pregnant with our daughter, Haley, and I said, take this down. I love the colorful clothes she wears."

Do the words written on one drive to the studio earn a writer's share of the song?

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@BrennanSil62579 that’s the fair part, you can’t use someone’s lyrics and then argue they didn’t take long enough

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Mike Love says his name was left off 35 Beach Boys songs.. he sued his own cousin, Brian Wilson.. and in 1994 a jury agreed, with damages reported at around $13 million.

The man on the other side was family. So was the man who sold the songs.

Mike co-founded the Beach Boys with his cousins, the Wilson brothers.

Their father, Murray Wilson, sold the band's song catalog.

Whose name was in the credits decided who got paid for those songs.

The court record:

1960: middle-class kids growing up a few miles from the beach in Southern California.

Late November 1963: Mike and Brian wrote a sad, haunting song together. The next morning came the news from Dallas.

1966: Brian spent several months building Good Vibrations across four or five L.A. studios with The Wrecking Crew.

Mike's job was the lyrics. He put it off until the drive to the session.

"I dictated a poem while I was driving in our XKE to the studio," he says.

Good Vibrations was one of the songs he later fought over.

1994: a jury found Mike was a co-writer.

$13 million: the award, according to press reports.

The case for Mike: the words were his, and for decades the credit and the royalties that come with it were not.

The case for Brian: by Mike's own account, the record took Brian months of tracks, tempos and experiments. Mike wrote his part during one car ride.

Then the twist.

Mike says family parties in his house always came back to singing, even with relatives who were feuding.

"You could have somebody who didn't pay somebody back," he says. "But music was the bond that brought everybody together."

That harmony, he says, "had nothing to do with music or fame or fortune."

If you have ever made something with family and never put it on paper, you already know how this one ends up in court.

In the video below, Mike Love says: "I dictated to my then-wife, Suzanne, who was pregnant with our daughter, Haley, and I said, take this down. I love the colorful clothes she wears."

Do the words written on one drive to the studio earn a writer's share of the song?

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@Tolot0caw personally I'd treat a triple no as final and leave the track in the vault forever

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@Zuk6Zuk good point, “timeline” would’ve been the better word for most of that

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@BobbyJaco36248 Brian was the genius for sure, but the jury still found mike wrote words that are on the record

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@MichaelPouncey that’s the perfect example, one of the biggest riffs ever came from a guy who woke up and hit record

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@BillBenson the eagles and the beach boys, two bands that proved credits cause more fights than creative differences

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@Tolot0caw exactly, the law protects contribution not effort, which feels unfair until you think about it

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@Aspect0F speed is usually a sign it was there all along, not that it’s worth less

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@Selmara1g true, and the problem here was that nothing was on paper until a jury put it there

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@JaceClipz that’s what makes it so sad, the people who hurt them most were the ones at the dinner table

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@DemonJin86848 honestly the track alone is genius, but genius doesn’t always become a hit