DanM

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[DanM @danmc1309]

@YorkshireRed99 @CansAndBansV12 He owes some lads money, their messages get removed when they ask about it.

It’s sad but at the same time I’d look elsewhere.

[DanM @danmc1309]

@YorkshireRed99 Lots of red flags with Liam 👍 owes money, orders not fulfilled, constantly has “deals” on etc

His Dad was brilliant, but Son spends most of his time claiming to have made all the flags he had no part in….

[Cheeses Of Nazareth @OhCheesesChrist]

The Demise Of The Season Ticket Holder

I want to give a bit more context on why I believe the recent sanctions being issued to Season Ticket Holders (STHs) are happening, and why I think there’s a revenue-driven agenda to reduce the number of STHs from the last published figure of 46,800 (see repost).

When the Glazers took over the club, they gradually increased the number of Season Tickets. The benefit of doing so was that it brought more money into the club upfront, at the start of each season, through renewals. Back then, there wasn't much difference between what a Season Ticket Holder paid per game and what a member paid to attend the same match.

Last June, Liverpool reported having 34,000 Season Ticket Holders, which represented around 55% of their stadium capacity. By comparison, Manchester United sits at around 62%. That might not sound like a huge difference, but financially it’s significant if the club replaces those season tickets with higher-priced memberships and hospitality.

To bring United down to the same 55%, the club would need to reduce the number of Season Ticket Holders by around 5,800.

For the sake of simplicity, I’ll use my own Season Ticket as an example. The figures won’t apply to everyone, but they illustrate why not only United but also a number of Premier League clubs may be looking to reduce the number of legacy Season Ticket Holders.

My Season Ticket costs £874 a season (£46 x 19 league games).

If my Season Ticket were removed and those same seats were instead sold to members at current match-by-match prices, the income would look something like this:

6 Category A games: 6 × £81 = £486
10 Category B games: 10 × £73 = £730
3 Category C games: 3 × £58 = £174
That totals £1,390.

So, on my seat alone, the club would generate an additional £516 per season — an increase of almost 60%.

Now apply that same principle across 5,800 Season Ticket Holders, and the additional revenue is almost £3 million per season (around £2.99m based on these figures). There could be additional operational costs to the club around all of this, but I don’t believe it would make the chase for the extra revenue pointless

This also doesn’t include any additional memberships that would need to be purchased for a member to obtain tickets.

Of course, these are illustrative numbers based solely on my own ticket price, and the actual figure would vary depending on where seats are located and how they’re repriced. But it indicates the financial incentive to reduce the number of Season Ticket Holders and replace them with more profitable ticketing models.

Now, you could argue that United did issue new Season Tickets after the renewal deadline, so they can’t be actively trying to reduce the overall number. My counter-argument would be that they still need to be seen to issue some Season Tickets while encouraging supporters to buy a Premium Membership, pay a Season Ticket deposit and commit to a Cup Season Ticket.

If the club were seen to be significantly reducing the number of Season Ticket Holders, the whole model would start to unravel, as fewer people would see the value in paying deposits and memberships while waiting for a ticket that may never come. That, in turn, could reduce revenue from those products.

The question then becomes whether the additional income from converting more seats to member sales and hospitality outweighs the potential loss in Premium Memberships, deposits and Cup Season Tickets. I don’t know the answer, but it’s certainly part of the financial equation.

The club will be crunching the numbers across all these scenarios.

Whether that’s what’s happening is open to debate, but when you look at the economics, it’s not difficult to see why clubs may be tempted.

[DanM @danmc1309]

@honestm4tty Everybody replying showing cashout like they’re proving you wrong, don’t understand basic maths 👍 bookies friends playing short term games.

[DanM @danmc1309]

@OhCheesesChrist Soaking on behalf of my friend, he’s clarified that it was in his application. Seems the same story as a few others above!

As you were 🤣

[AFazeli 🔴⚪️⚫️ @AFazeli]

@AdamJoseph A lad on Red Issue had it spot on.

[DanM @danmc1309]

@davidhark61 @TheAthleticFC @AndyMitten 😴

[The Life Of Brian @DaytrippingRed]

This 👍🏻

You can’t change the landscape so stringently, with a massive focus on actively trying to ban ST Holders for passing on tickets, with so many methods being used to catch people, then celebrate the very same thing on social media because of who it is

Nobody’s arsed Luke Littler was at a game, everyone knows he’s a red

But this chest pumping social media push of photos, knowing that the lad isn’t an ST holder, given the current animosity between fanbase and club around away tickets, is tone deaf in the extreme

[Cheeses Of Nazareth @OhCheesesChrist]

Do we have double standards now when the club issues away tickets? Yes, we do.

If Adidas issued the tickets (I've had it confirmed that they were), and as we've seen, the ticket request on social media for spares was made 24 hours before the game, that would expose a clear double standard by the Ticket Office for Commercial Partners over supporters.

United "claims" they have to send away ticket name details to the home club (Wolves) by "Friday" for a "weekend" game, strictly enforcing this rule on match-going fans.

So, will the Ticket Office sanction Adidas if the names on the tickets don't match the actual users, or was there an allowance to change the names at short notice?

Whatever it was, it's one rule for them, a strict rule for us.

[Cheeses Of Nazareth @OhCheesesChrist]

The outrage over tickets landing in ineligible hands last night is justified. While the club didn't issue them, the presence of club-affiliated personnel instantly raised the issue’s profile.

The biggest insult? The club thought it was okay to post pictures of this on social media for "likes."

This is peak disconnection. Loyal fans face strict sanctions, bans, and procedural breaches, while the club celebrates the very rules that match-goers circumvent.

It proves there's one rule for social media optics and another for the actual fanbase.

[Gaz @Gaz_1878]

And look who’s with Luke Littler, our anonymous Director of Fan Engagement 🤣 guy has just absolutely nothing since getting the role other than getting into bed with the owners! Nothing against Littler btw, bloke is a legend

[TRA FC @TRA_FC_]

We’re back at home next week for a huge cup game. Hopefully we have a dry week as we’re desperate to get out for our final time before the Christmas break. Clubhouse next to the pitch, outdoor and indoor seating, bar for drinks and food. 5 min walk to tram stop easy access.
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[TRA FC @TRA_FC_]

TRAcelona with the 1-0 win this morning 🇾🇪 Kai from 25 yards.

[One Norman Whiteside @WhitesideOne]

14th September 1985 - League Division One

MANCHESTER CITY 0
MANCHESTER UNITED 3
Bryan Robson 8' (pen)
Arthur Albiston 19'
Mike Duxbury 73'

[DanM @danmc1309]

@marcbiggs 🤡

[Nathan Salt @NathSalt1]

Flag display organised by the TRA with the support of the club.

Some atmosphere in here #mufc

[The Life Of Brian @DaytrippingRed]

Should be a simple enough process this

Let @TraMufc do what it does best, get the atmosphere going

If you stop them from doing it, by drowning them out with music, you can’t whinge about the lack of atmosphere, can you?

Let’s give it a go, see what happens 👍🏻

[DanM @danmc1309]

@OhCheesesChrist Especially as we’ve just been instructed to put our trust in a 3rd party company who now hold all our ID’s to simply continue attending a football match.