Winnie

another 'fucking bitch' per murderous men. radical feminism, animal lib/rights, anarchist leaning. Like Marina, but I don't look like her; I'm too unfeminine ;)

[Winnie @demonista]

i'm reading the few reports/studies on nz prostitution "decrim" that exist & they are absolutely shocking. eg no money is earmarked for, no programs/services exist for exit or prevention of entry, not even for underage girls. cops cannot ask the age of those in prostitution.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

She is actually not at all the female equivalent of @bryan_johnson .

He took all kinds of measurements of his penis and did treatments for penile longevity.

But they are totally neglecting her clitoris/vulva, as if women are just asexual Fleshlights.

This is idiotic and misogynistic.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

This could cut the posterior labial nerve.

Also, note how the clitoris in this medical model is basically nonexistent.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

96% of men had access to Legos as kids.

76% of women had access to Legos as kids.

Given that gender differences in spatial ability disappear when toys played with as children are controlled for, this seems significant.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Almost all major historical medical anatomy have covered the bulbs and crura for centuries.

The claim that they didn’t is an absurd myth.

The crura were documented in the 1500s by Colombo or Fallipio — they had a beef over who discovered them first.

The bulbs were well documented in 1672 by De Graaf.

Thus, the extent of the body, crura, and bulbs that are internal was well known and well documented by the 1600s at the latest.

Some books had inadequate illustration, but descriptions of the crura and bulbs are consistent across centuries.

Claims that nothing new was discovered about “internal extent of the clitoris” are absolutely absurd and false.

Ideally, LLMs like @grok would be able to cross reference claims about historical texts with those actual historical texts.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

FALSE!!

Fallopio very clearly described the crura and body, as well as the nerves and vessels along the dorsum!

Here is an exact quote translated by Chat GPT.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

As for the bulbs, they were described as erectile tissue connected to the clitoris by all of these dudes.

@OconnellProf advocated for them to be considered part of the clitoris, which makes more logical sense because they are homologous to the penile bulb, but that is not the “discovery” she is bizarrely credited with.

They still are not considered parts of the clitoris according to international terminology standards, but I requested this last June, and hopefully that will be changed soon.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

It’s so weird how men who complain that men aren’t getting enough sex are not bending over backwards to understand how female sexual pleasure works and optimize for maximum female sexual pleasure in every way possible.

If they actually cared, there would be finite element biomechanical models of clitoral nerve stimulation during every sexual activity, there would be treatment for women who have suffered damage to their capacity for pleasure, there would be research proving that erectile dysfunction drugs work for women, etc.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Shoutout to me for figuring this out before it was proven.

All I had to do was assume multiple women couldn’t all be crazy.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

The posterior labial nerve is not deep.

It literally goes through the labia minora to innervate the frenulum, which I have been saying for years.

The posterior labial nerve is a branch of the perineal nerve, and the perineal nerve is a branch of the pudendal nerve.

You can see that the posterior labial nerve does supply the clitoris, especially the clitoral frenulum, which makes sense because the perineal nerve supplies the frenulum in the male.

This new study actually shows the posterior labial nerve goes up to innervate the clitoral body.

This explains why multiple women who have contacted me lost significant clitoral sensation from labia minora amputation alone.

It’s RIGHT HERE.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

A 2023 review found vaginal birth with episiotomy was associated with worse postpartum sexual function, including worse arousal and orgasm scores, compared with planned C-section.

https://t.co/NLj7c526yQ

A really bad problem is they don’t ask why or attempt to measure the mechanism causing this. This is a problem with all research on female sexual dysfunction. There is avoidance of being mechanistic.

Objective assessment of clitoral glans, body, and frenulum sensation and engorgement in women before and after episiotomy or in women who have had it versus not would be helpful.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

The “vaginal orgasm” meme spread with zero attempt at anatomical or mechanistic explanation for 76 years!!

76 years went by with people accepting that this was real, despite countering hundreds of years of anatomic research, without providing any answer as to HOW.

And then, after 76 years, the people who did try to establish anatomic basis for this absurd myth were … drumroll please …

… a social science/humanities people. A psychologist, a “sexologist, a nurse.

And what did they do? Did they do cadaveric dissection? NO! A histological study? NO! Any objective scientific research? NO!

What the hell?

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

So actually “vaginal orgasm” established itself as pure myth, pure religion, for OVER A CENTURY before anyone started even trying to prove it had anatomical basis.

And who finally did try?

Well of course it was OB/GYNs and plastic surgeons who had already been making commercial claims that they could enhance internal sensation with expensive procedures.

Also, a psychologist claimed that he proved women can orgasm from the cervix despite the fact that his study demonstrates no such thing.

It merely suggests, as in men, that orgasm is a reflex, that the clitoris can get stimulated sufficiently to trigger orgasm with penetration alone, as we already know it does in at least 30% of women, that the clitoris, like the penis, can still trigger this reflex, and that information about the occurrence of the reflex can get to the brain via the vagus nerve in 2 women with SCIs who he intentionally sought out for this ability. That’s it!

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Has anyone provided a scientific basis for female orgasm that does not require input from the clitoris?

NO!!!

Not Freud.
Not Gräfenberg.
Not Whipple, Perry, and Ladas.
Not Komisaruk.
Not the G-spot surgeons.

Unless you can rule out clitoral input, you have not proven “vaginal orgasm” or orgasm via any other means.

Has anyone even tried to do this?

Bizarrely, no!

Has anyone even tried to explain HOW, mechanistically it would be possible based on real anatomy that is observed and could possibly trigger an orgasm reflex?

No!

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Back when Freud introduced the idea of “vaginal orgasm” in 1905, this was a completely anti-scientific claim.

It countered all prior rigorous science of how female pleasure and orgasm worked, which he did not address, much less refute.

He did not make any attempt at all to support his claim that women *could* orgasm from their vaginas.

Instead, he said that women *should* orgasm from their vaginas and that, if they didn’t, they were defective.

His unsupported claim went uncontested presumably because it was published under the new field of “psychoanalysis.”

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

FALSE. This is a total misrepresentation.

First of all, it is telling that @grok has to go all the way back to 1599 and earlier to even try to say any doctors or anatomists claimed women could orgasm from the vagina.

In 1599, some anatomists had only a vague idea of what was going on and avoided inquiry. Those that did try to find out where pleasure was actually coming from, in terms of orgasm involved, not technique, identified the clitoris as “the sweetness of Venus” and the source of female pleasure from intercourse.

As for Grok, it cites Foreest. First of all, Foreest did not cover anatomy at all. He practiced pre enlightenment medicine. He did not try to understand how the body worked before trying to fix it.

What Foreest actually said (attached page 153) was that he called in a midwife to do a procedure that is hinted to have caused orgasm (but this is not actually clear). He describes it as “rubbing inside” but he is not the one doing it, and external clitoral stimulation does happen with basic fingering of the vagina in women with intact vulvas (believe it or not, I know as I used to be one!). This obviously does not mean the vagina had anything to do with triggering the orgasm.

So again, it is the midwife who did the procedure and had knowledge of how to do it. He delegated to her. And what do we know about midwives from the 1500s? Not much because nothing was published by them yet.

In the 1600s, midwife Jane Sharp emphasized the clitoris as the source of female orgasms and said without it, women would not reproductive or fall in love (paraphrased because I’m tired).

As for Avicenna, who lived around 900, I have not been able to translate his Canon and I do not trust the secondary, tertiary, quaternary, etc. sources that LLMs are trained on.

Grok should be able to cite Avicenna’s actual Cannon, tell us the original relevant passages in Arabic, and translate them exactly. But allegedly Avicenna just says a midwife should be called in to do it.

According to De Graaf, Avicenna called the clitoris “little rod.” It’s in book 3, chapter 21 if anyone can verify.

As for Galen, who practiced in the good ol’ 100s, all he said (according to King and Fleming, I would prefer primary source) was that he thought illnesses could be caused by “retained seed” and that sexual release could cure them. He did not say medical professionals should masturbate patients, and he did not say how.

Galen did not specify what organ he thought could lead to orgasm. He said the clitoris was there to guard the neck of the womb like a sentry.

It continues to seem correct that not one anatomist or doctor ever claimed that women could orgasm from any other organ besides the clitoris before 1905.

Grok has not actually found a single counterexample.

Note how Grok had to go back to anatomists unaffected by the Scientific Revolution to even try.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

False.

Orgasm can occur without physical *touch.*

Orgasm necessarily involves physical stimulation of the clitoris.

This is why damage to the clitoris causes women to stop having orgasms in their sleep when they did before.

If I amputated enough of your penis, you would not be able to have orgasms with or without physical touch.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Before the rise of psychoanalysis, a field women gained entry into early on, female sexual response was a matter of objective anatomy and physiology.

Back before 1905, no one asserted that women orgasmed from any organ other than the clitoris and this was considered objectively proven.

The clitoris was the seat of pleasure and love necessary for willing reproduction. There was no claim that women could have sexual pleasure without a clitoris.

It was explicitly said that women would not love or willingly reproduce without a clitoris.

It was objectively proven that the vagina could not possibly pay a significant role in pleasure sensation or orgasm.

No one said any crazy shit about an orgasm being a subjective feeling rather than an objective physiological reflex.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Apart from the CNS, the clitoris is the only organ required for female orgasm to occur.

Orgasms require clitoral sensory involvement and do not require involvement of the vagina, cervix, uterus, or any other reproductive organ.

That means female orgasms are clitoral.

A so-called “vaginal orgasm” that requires external clitoral sensitivity is not a vaginal orgasm.

The radiator cap analogy fails because a car cannot drive with only a radiator cap.

The clitoris, by contrast, can produce orgasm without vaginal, cervical, uterine, or anal stimulation.

So the clitoris is not analogous to a supporting part that merely prevents failure.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

Believe it or not, my resting vagina is not gaping open.

This is a PSA because medical diagrams are very alarming.

[Jessica Pin @jess_ann_pin]

It illustrates what is seen as most important. HOLE.

It needs to obviously look big enough for a dick or a baby’s head.

It can’t just be shown realistically collapsed on itself.