@FanStreamTampa This was a real team that served the Twins, Cubs, and Rays for decades. Then, they moved the club from an historic, downtown park to Disney. Attendance tanked and the Orlando Rays are now the Montgomery Biscuits in a beautiful downtown park with one of the best logos in AA ball.
@StadiumShadow Selig was very good at it. Personally, though, I don’t think we can ever top the mid-80’s classic “Tampa and St. Petersburg Must Work Together” from Peter Ueberroth.
@hallofgoodpod Jose Molina. He willed that staff to be better than it was, delayed knee surgery and ended his career to do it. People get pissed at his offensive performance, but the Rays would’ve been so much worse without him. Not enough credit goes his way.
@mat_pagano@TBBaseballMkt Sure… HCC, Drew Park, Rays’ new place, ped bridge over Dale Mabry. I also know about local politics when it comes to big league sports. Anything said in public is top grade black fertilizer. All that matters is the contracts. These numbers - all of them - can’t be trusted.
@mat_pagano@TBBaseballMkt That would be amazing if you had any chance of being correct. All those sub-projects, though, are demanding public dollars, land, and more. The absence of private investors tells me the only money to be made is for politicians and their special friends. That’s how Florida works.
@marceelias@BaddCompani Did all of the States’ Rights people die off or something? The States run their elections. USPS can’t tell a County SoE who they can or cannot send a piece of mail.
@mat_pagano@TBBaseballMkt If it’s such a great investment, private money is easily found. But, there’s no evidence that new parks bring anything but feels. Important, but $3 billion important? Public money can go to roads, water, &c. as part of master planning. Rays (and Bucs) can build their own homes.
@StadiumShadow Any real deadline is tied to election and legislative calendars. Rays new OG paid good money to influence the Governor. They need the return on that before it expires and have to fall back on a St. Pete plan that has fewer pols and their donors making bank on the land deals.
@mat_pagano@TBBaseballMkt Any study is crap as there’s no way to calculate ROI on the project. The “actual issue” is draining the treasury to fund a private facility. Municipal spend on enabling infrastructure is one thing. But a manufacturing plant, office tower, or sports park? The company needs to pay.
@pkpundit@SunnylandProds Main President? IIRC, Washington speaks and then, since the GWB admin, the currently sitting President at the time vomits some words on us. What the heck is “main” President?
@indolentdandy@the_transit_guy There wasn’t really a fossil fuel lobby, as we know it, when the key infrastructure decisions were made. Detroit’s Big 3 had much more impact. Communism fears and racial segregation were even higher motivations than car manufacturing, though. Both are easier with urban sprawl.
@ShawnNOrlando Bingo. It’s an excuse for gramps to bust out his CD player and crank up some Huey Lewis. Same way my grandparents said, “hey, we had a fridge just like that!” It connects people.
@AkaLazarus@jacobkornbluh He’s the Mayor of New York City, not the East Coast Director of the Tel Aviv Tourism Authority. I don’t see how this matters outside of the five boroughs.
@Spaceysoka Or… we could get better candidates to run for office. That’d be a great campaign promise… “after I’m gone, people will look fondly upon my animatronic likeness at the Magic Kingdom.”
@___Gestalt@DrewDisneyDude Tech is already encroaching in Act I… hand-cranked washing machine, phonograph, stereoscope. They even hit on air travel and electric lights. The ‘60s can start with transistor radios, transatlantic flights, and the space race. Same evoking of a slower-pace.
@JeffreyBrandes@HollyBullardFL@jonbrooks There are no details because they aren’t needed. The goal isn’t tax relief, it’s control of the local govs. This way, issues like cruise terminals, public land sales, growth restrictions, data centers, &c. can be handled via backroom budget threats instead of risky ballot fights.