Can we debunk this nonsense?
Elon Musk was awarded (note: not given) cost-per-result contracts to perform a service for the US government. The total of those for SpaceX specifically is ~$22B, which includes repaid loans, state tax incentives, etc.
The deal was simple: put stuff into LEO at or below a set cost. If SpaceX does it below the set cost, SpaceX keeps the difference. If it doesn’t, the company is responsible for the overrun.
End result? SpaceX & Elon lowered the cost of getting 1 kg into LEO by 95-97% vs what NASA was paying previously.
And for the record, every other company around at the time was offered the same opportunity to bid on the contract - Musk/SpaceX just took it.
The handout narrative implies the taxpayer is the patron and SpaceX the dependent. The cost data shows the opposite: before SpaceX, NASA paid Russia’s Soyuz $80-86M per seat; SpaceX delivered at ~$55 million. SpaceX saved the US taxpayer $300M-$465M each year on that alone (the US sends 12-15 astronauts to space each year)
On the lunar lander, NASA estimated SpaceX’s fixed-price bid saved $20B-$30B vs the Boeing-preferred cost-plus approach.
So: SpaceX saved the US taxpayer more than the total value of contracts it earned on a single project, PLUS provided the US government with the requested services (put stuff in LEO) at the best possible price.
@stammebark Var stor oppstandelse da Listhaug kalte ham en notorisk løgner blant heiagjengen, og her er nok et eksempel på at hun nok var inne på noe. Løgn og bedrag er forøvrig synonymt med å være AP-politiker og ikke noe overraskende i det hele tatt
Tout le monde devient fou parce qu'Elon Musk a une fortune de 1 000 milliards de dollars.
Très bien. Faisons les comptes, calmement.
L'État fédéral américain dépense 7 000 milliards de dollars par an. La fortune entière d'Elon, accumulée sur 30 ans de travail, représente 52 jours de dépenses de Washington. L'État français dépense 1 700 milliards d'euros par an, 57% du PIB, record absolu du monde développé. La fortune d'Elon, c'est 7 mois de dépenses publiques françaises.
Maintenant, la question que personne ne pose : qu'est-ce que chacun a produit avec cet argent ?
Washington, avec 7 000 milliards par an : un déficit de 1 800 milliards, une dette de 38 000 milliards, et des intérêts de la dette qui dépassent désormais le budget militaire. La Californie de Newsom a brûlé plus de 15 milliards dans un train à grande vitesse qui n'existe pas. La NASA a dépensé plus de 24 milliards pour développer le SLS, une fusée jetable à 4 milliards le lancement.
La France, avec 1 700 milliards par an : un hôpital en crise permanente, une école qui s'effondre dans les classements internationaux, 3 400 milliards de dette, et pas une seule entreprise technologique de rang mondial créée en 25 ans.
Elon, avec une fraction microscopique de ces budgets : le Falcon 9 développé pour environ 400 millions de dollars, là où la NASA estimait elle-même qu'il lui en aurait coûté 4 milliards. Dix fois moins cher. Des fusées qui atterrissent. Le coût du kilo en orbite divisé par 20. Starlink qui connecte des millions de personnes que les plans d'aménagement du territoire ont oubliées pendant 40 ans. Tesla qui a forcé toute l'industrie automobile mondiale à basculer vers l'électrique, ce que 30 ans de COP et de subventions n'avaient pas réussi à faire.
Donc récapitulons. Les États ont des moyens 10 à 50 fois supérieurs, le monopole de la loi, le monopole de l'impôt, et des décennies d'avance. Elon a beaucoup moins de moyens, zéro pouvoir de contrainte, et il surperforme tout le monde, dans tous les domaines où il entre.
Ce n'est pas un hasard. C'est structurel. Quand un entrepreneur alloue son propre argent, chaque erreur lui coûte personnellement, donc il apprend vite. Quand un bureaucrate alloue l'argent des autres, chaque erreur est invisible, diluée, et souvent récompensée par un budget supplémentaire l'année suivante. L'un a une boucle de feedback, l'autre n'en a pas.
La conclusion s'impose d'elle-même : le pouvoir de créer des systèmes dans le monde réel doit TOUJOURS être donné aux entrepreneurs qui allouent leur propre argent. Pas parce qu'ils sont meilleurs moralement. Parce qu'ils sont les seuls à payer le prix de leurs erreurs, et donc les seuls capables de corriger.
Milei a TOUT compris. Re-regardez son discours de Davos. "L'État n'est pas la solution, l'État est le problème lui-même." Tout le monde a ri en 2024. L'Argentine est sortie de l'hyperinflation pendant que la France cherche encore 40 milliards d'économies qu'elle ne trouvera jamais.
L'histoire ne juge pas les intentions. Elle juge l'allocation.
@DellLenovo73112@eleventysigma@NYCMayor@grok How about Google then?
Are they all lying and secretly controlled by stupid Drumpf and NaziMusk, or are you simply an envious socialist who has never benefited anyone and cannot bear that someone you disagree with politically has done more for the world than you?
@DellLenovo73112@eleventysigma@NYCMayor@grok please explain this envious socialist who’s so eager to listen, how Elon Musk has benefited millions of people with the companies he’s built and are still building
Elon Musk is about to become a trillionaire
If he agreed to pay just 80% of that as a wealth tax to the EU, the EU government could use its efficient operating experience to fund bicycles with solar panels attached to them for over 40 residents of the Netherlands
Elon is being selfish by not paying the wealth tax
Henry Nowak died the same way a civilization dies: abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit. His murder is as tragic as it is enraging. He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it.
Henry was far from the first to so needlessly lose his life, and I fear he won’t be the last. Each time a life like his is lost, the proper response—the only response—is righteous anger. One of the most important things the Trump administration has proven to the world is that stopping the flow of mass migration and defending national sovereignty is a matter of political will and leadership. Anything else is an excuse.
It is because we love the West that we want to preserve it. We love our civilization. We love our country. We love our children. And nobody—nobody—should ever die the way that Henry Nowak died. May God comfort those who loved him, and may God rest his soul.
We can all condemn violence against innocents, including the attack on the mosque in San Diego. But Keir Starmer's selective outrage reveals deeper problems.
How did Britain elect a leader who now clings to power amid collapsing polls, dire local election results, and even his own MPs urging him to go? He blocks "far-right agitators" from entering the country while illegal Channel crossings continue and domestic crime like stabbings, robberies, grooming gets softer treatment when patterns don't fit the narrative.
It's cherry-picking: loud condemnation for attacks abroad or on certain communities, silence or deflection on what's happening in his own country. It fuels division by implying anyone raising uncontrolled immigration, integration failures, or Islamism concerns shares blame for violence. Meanwhile, millions feel ignored on basics: safety leaving home, affordable housing, wages not eroded by rapid demographic change.
Outrage like this attack is wrong. But it doesn't emerge in a vacuum. When leaders dismiss valid criticisms of mass low-skilled immigration, the grooming scandals, parallel societies, or the strain on services as "hate," people feel powerless. Life has worsened for many on cost of living, cohesion, and trust. Labeling half the country as extremists while excusing or downplaying other group crimes is the real two-tier approach. It's no different from collective blame on entire communities for individuals' acts.
The right solution isn't violence. It's listening: enforce laws equally, deport foreign criminals and failed asylum seekers, prioritize integration and contribution over volume, control borders, and restore free speech so grievances don't fester underground. Most people regardless of background want the same: safe streets, affordable life for their kids, and reciprocity. You can return or remove those who burden rather than build. Britain thrived with selective, manageable immigration before.
Starmer's approach - more silencing, jailing for speech, ignoring root causes, risks escalation, not peace. Recent votes show how unpopular he is. Britain needs leaders who put their own people and culture first, I doubt you’ve seen the worst of Keir Starmer yet.
Nothing to slam about. They’ve already achieved what they can as a team this season: 3rd place locked in, CL secured. Let them celebrate personal achievements, it’s creating PL history, something to be motivated about. Fans love to brag about having the best players, and players love playing with the best. It’s okay to be happy about others’ achievements and celebrate together.
Nah that’s Webb’s subjective opinion based on if he determines Mbeumo was actively handling the ball with his arms, there will be disagreement between refs as well, their own rules says it can come of his own body parts and is not a handball, only goals scored directly from this will be disallowed.
🚨 BREAKING: José Mourinho back to Real Madrid, HERE WE GO! 💣🤍
All terms have been verbally agreed between José Mourinho and Real Madrid, waiting to sign all documents.
Plan for initial two year deal, JM to travel to Madrid after Real-Bilbao game.
The Special One is back.
Maybe I wouldn’t defend the decision, but I wouldn’t argue against it either, we’re all biased, but as I said 50/50, there are arguments for and against it’s really up to the ref, I guess he couldn’t see anything clear and obvious to determine intentional, hence he had no reason to change his decision, handball rules give too much room for interpretation and it’s something that people will never agree on.
I thought he was going to disallow and I was okay with it, there was nothing at stake for us, CL secured, 3rd place locked in. Forest won’t be relegated either by letting the goal stand.