@VicD15@neyikaybettik There are videos out there. That’s also why TikTok was purchased to suppress the exact videos you are describing.
https://t.co/2PqDYVTsv5
@stopthee@clinton_slagle@mersen@joerogan@ComicDaveSmith Again, this is the same argument that Murray attempted to make. An appeal to authority (or lack of) requiring “expertise” in a subject doesn’t discredit the argument. Instead of arguing the points, it’s a deflection to credentials.
Dershowitz- “If Jeffrey Epstein told me he was a Mossad agent, I would have got him off completely.”
Piers Morgan- “Hang on, are you saying that if Epstein said he was Mossad, he could get away with being a ped0!?”
Dershowitz-“That’s right.”
@stopthee@clinton_slagle@mersen@joerogan@ComicDaveSmith 1. Dave is a citizen. What you ascribe to value him as, is only an exit path to avoid refuting his actual points.
2. No. Again, that’s why he prefaces his positions bc the arguments in the past were the inverse.
3. Reread your responses.
4. Deflection.
@stopthee@clinton_slagle@mersen@joerogan@ComicDaveSmith Context matters. It’s a rhetorical device to double down on Hughes attempt to argue incrementalism vs absolutism.
That’s why the exchange @ 01:14 is relevant. Hughes hypothetical set the stage. What you’re referring to @ 01:21 is an extension of that same argument.
@stopthee@clinton_slagle@mersen@joerogan@ComicDaveSmith 1. Change from attacking Dave’s profession to his accountability.
2. Circular logic. Smith isn’t an expert so the facts of the argument don’t matter.
3. Fallacy dictionary definitions.
4. Paradox - If I’m not an expert in explaining the fallacies . . .
@Yankees_realist@Bgrew11@RetroCoast 1. Multiple terrorist orgs want to kill them largerly because of Israel’s own actions.
2. Thrive? Lmao. Big brother USA makes that happen. So no, it doesn’t prove your point.
Then there is also this:
https://t.co/E3oW53ol8v
Stand down order admitted on record.
Israeli soldier testifies to Knesset committee:
“We received orders from the Golani Brigade commanders on October 7 to cancel all patrols along the Gaza border from 5:20 AM until 9:00 AM.'
@stopthee@clinton_slagle@mersen@joerogan@ComicDaveSmith Now you’re doubling down on the deflection?
Here’s an idea, because Google is a thing. Look up the definitions of the fallacies I mentioned, reread your comments in this exchange, see said fallacies in action.
Trump is unilaterally redirecting $1.25 billion in taxpayer money for foreign aid to his personally controlled "Board of Peace."
This isn't even a normal U.S. government entity. It's a "public international organization" he created by executive order, naming himself as chairman for life. He gets veto power, picks the members, sets the agenda, & controls how the money flows, with no real oversight or auditing built in.
Congress is supposed to control spending & appropriations. They're the ones who can (and should) stop this.
If Republicans won't even ask questions about funneling billions of taxpayer dollars into a "board" Trump himself owns for life, I'm seriously done voting for them for a while. It's beyond ridiculous at this point.
🚨In a 1990 interview, former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan described Congress as “Israeli-occupied territory.” As a result, he was viciously attacked by the corporate press and the political leadership of both parties, demonstrating beyond all doubt that he was correct in his observation.
Today, the Israel Lobby in the United States is far more powerful than it was in 1990, so much so that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu actually boasts to his voters that he directs U.S. policy.
You've also said that Congress is an Israeli occupied territory.
Now, what do you mean by that?
I said on the McLaughlin group, in response to a question, Jim, they said, do you think that the Congress of the United States will resist this demand for further aid?
I said, threw out a crack.
I'd heard.
I said, no, the Congress of the United States is israeli occupied territory.
What I meant by that is the most powerful lobby in Washington which Congress can't stand up to.
One of the most powerful is certainly the pro Israeli lobby.
It has gotten its way in this town year in and year out.
And I don't think the automatic votes of the Congress of the United States for three and $4 billion worth of aid to Israel are necessarily in the national interest of the United States.
And that comment, which is to ridicule the subservience of the Congress of the United States, is perfectly valid.
I do not believe my government should subsidize Israeli socialism, which we have done.
And I do not believe we should subsidize a policy on the west bank of the Jordan river which denies the palestinian people rights, which I support from Lithuania to Croatia.
But if I also believe that Pat Buchanan is entitled to stand up and speak out against any kind of political lobby, whether it's the greek lobby, aid for Greece, or whether it's the pro israeli lobby, aid for Israel without being called vile names.
And you think that's what's happened to you?
Let me tell you something, Jim.
When this little flap is 18 months old, I made this crack.
I know Buckley's talking about an 18 month old column.
Let's forget that.
When this broke, I made that wiseacre crack about the amen corner.
It was wiseacre, and it was very funny.
You know what happened as a consequence of that?
People called my newspapers that carried my column and said, drop Buchanan.
AIPAC listed five conservative colonists who were accepted.
No, the pro israeli lobby.
The pro Israeli lobby.
I went out to speak in the country and a little girl from the junior league said, I get these horrible calls from New York about you people.
There are individuals who are pro Israeli, go around the country and speak in synagogues and say, call CNN and get Pat Buchanan taken off the air.
Those kinds of tactics, in my judgment, are un american.
They are done in the name of the First Amendment and they violate the spirit of the First Amendment.
You know me.
I've been in this town for 25 years, 30 years.
I am controversial.
I am sometimes insensitive.
I am tough and I am hard.
But I think that this type of thing is beyond the pale.