serial orc enthusiast

Unfocused rambling about the big fantasy franchise.

[Nightweave @nightweave]

@Portergauge @TheRedShirtGuy Pretty ill portent that one of the most memorable zones in the game’s history was remastered and the most notable thing about it is the casual erasure of its key defining feature. A symbol of its peoples’ past, and the future they made, seemingly replaced by nothing.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir Of course, the other part are the writers seemingly terrified of committing to any story idea for longer than 5 minutes, and some kind of eternal remorse for BfA (Teldrassil) and the lawsuits. The IP is at complete odds with its own existence, which isn't sustainable.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir I think that explains some of why they're handling lore so loosely now: they view it like gear. Gear gets replaced every 2-6 months, why shouldn't lore? Dump whatever you can into the furnace to make the train go faster, whether it's coal or parts of the train itself.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@MeesRp truly just love how they forgot to write anything actually redemptive or uniquely beneficial about the void in this expansion, so everyone is passionately arguing for the insanity-inducing nightmare magic while acting like fel is icky and bad

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir People after TLT's plot takes place over 32 minutes (we defeat the Titans 30 minutes in) and Northrend is just a jumbled colorful playground for the SL races and characters to play in as they're part of Azeroth now "Why are people complaining? The story has themes AND writing"

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@BaalTheWarlock the foundational message of modern Warcraft is someone going "you care about something? So did Hitler" and nodding sagely at you

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@BaalTheWarlock they consistently betray their belief that the entire fantasy setting that their livelihood revolves around writing for was, in fact, a mistake to have ever been made, and must be cleaned up in some desperate attempt to reassure the audience that the writer is a good person

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir Nobody knows what her plans could be because nobody has talked about the revelations from TWW offscreen, because they don't exist offscreen. MN's plot relies on the entire world outside of QT being frozen in time to make logical sense. It's barely able to function as a plot.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir First noticed with this Vyranoth in DF, it's on a whole other extreme here: the writing acts like if someone is not on screen, they currently don't exist. Nobody talks off screen, either. Xal'atath is not on screen, so she effectively has stopped existing. Nobody knows anything.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@that_kind_oforc they're so obsessed with reluctant and tired protagonists it almost makes you think they don't want to write for this setting or even any fantasy setting at all! almost, haha...

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

Frankly, why should we invest time into caring about it? It'll be retconned, consciously or otherwise, by another writer soon enough. The track record of CDev has given no reason to believe otherwise. Why tease us with something that will never matter? Waste of our time.

[Keith Riley Co @Boogily_Woogily]

There is a piece of minor lore in the 12.0.7 Zul'jan questline that I haven't seen anyone notice yet 🤔 it's not a major lore reveal, just raises an interesting question 🤔 and it's not hidden, just probably overlooked 🤔

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Khorgnir Every week this past month has been Blizzard doing something incredibly stupid, defenders going "there's a good reason for it/you're wrong", and then the next week Blizzard goes "I DID IT INCREDIBLY STUPID ON PURPOSE" and the cycle repeats.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@firepolarbear I think it's lack of communication combined with an unsustainable patch cycle and a story team that has become increasingly hostile to critique since SL. They're so focused on keeping people's attention it's taking precedent over making a product worthy of their attention.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

Following the lead game designer describing the elf story completely incorrectly prerelease, MN's director is now telling players to play side quests that don't exist to learn more about the story of elf friction and unity.

This story doesn't exist outside of the writers' minds.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

WoW's leadership doesn't seem to know what the actual contents of the expansion are. You fundamentally can't trust what they advertise for TLT.

Maybe asking questions about the story outside of the dojo is the fastest way to get yourself a Teams meeting with your manager and HR.

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

@Krexxal yeah it's definitely the worst campaign in RoC at least

[serial orc enthusiast @eternalseething]

for the people constantly going "but WC3's ending!" here's a thought experiment:

1) take someone that has never played WC3
2) have them only play the 1st human mission, 1st orc mission, and final night elf mission
3) ask them if they liked the story

[Baal Samael @BaalTheWarlock]

YOU DON'T DERIVE MEANING EXCLUSIVELY FROM THE ENDING OF THINGS YOU DIM WITTED FOOLS