@EYounaan32770 A society that publishes its school textbooks with words like Hindu accompanied by "(Kafir)" next to it, whose history books start with Sindh raid by Qasim, wouldn't normally celebrate its classical Hindu/Buddhist/Jain past unless out of new desperation or to deny Hindus that.
@Ugra___ Ugra, I've followed you for a few years, since YajnaDevam's interview of yours on YouTube where you explained how Indra ceded primacy to Vishnu due to changing monsoon fortunes etc. I know you don't agree with him on IVC decipherment. Do you think it's IE language or not?
@Aravindwrites08 Agree. A multi time Governor resigning to try becoming an MLA again is the kind of depraved thinking that ne doesn't expect from 'nation-first' parties.
@KsportsX@yajnadevam Whole the truth is more complex. The segregation of 'Kudigal' (குடிகள்) on the lines of landed grouos and servile ones had predated any large scale and incursion into Tamil lands. Manusmriti policies can at worst be blamed for fossilising it, not fomenting it.
@KsportsX@yajnadevam Not all South Indians do so. Mainly Tamils - who never had a Sanskrit Vs Tamil one upmanship problem till colonial times, but picked it up in a zealous way after Caldwell's theory. Besides, the Dravidian politics would like to see Aryans as those who brought in Varna/Jati
Funny enough, Indian philosophy anticipated a remarkably contemporary epistemological debate. Several classical Indian schools defended the view that truth is the natural condition of cognition, whereas error requires the intervention of some specific defect (doṣa) whether a malfunction of the sense faculties (indriyadoṣa), a failure of memory (smṛti), or some other distorting factor. The classic formulation of this position is the svataḥ-prāmāṇyavāda (the doctrine of the intrinsic validity of cognition) developed by the Pūrva-Mīmāṃsā tradition.
What is particularly striking is how widely influential this intuition became. Abhinavagupta, for instance, broadly accepts the same underlying principle, even while reinterpreting it through the lens of Trika Śaivism and an absolute idealist metaphysics rather than the realist framework of the Bhāṭṭa Mīmāṃsakas. More generally, much of the Indian literature on error (khyātivāda) operates within this assumption that cognition is prima facie trustworthy and that falsity requires a special explanatory burden.
For all practical purposes, this resembles a family of positions that both modern and contemporary analytic epistemologists have been attempting to articulate through different conceptual frameworks in recent years. One finds echoes of it in Michael Huemer's Phenomenal Conservatism, according to which appearances confer immediate justification unless defeated; in John Bengson's work on quasi-perceptual justification and intellectual seemings; in Thomas Reid's doctrine of common sense and the default trustworthiness of our faculties; in William Alston's epistemology of doxastic practices; and even, in a more modest form, in contemporary anti-skeptical positions that assign a defeasible but intrinsic justificatory status to ordinary cognition.
The convergence is fascinating itself: centuries before the emergence of analytic epistemology, Indian philosophers were already asking whether cognition is innocent until proven guilty - or guilty until proven innocent.
@HindolSengupta Archaelogy, Museology, History (in modern way), Cartography - all disciplines of modern methods, including those followed by China - were introduced to us by the West. A % of them may have vested interests but let's not be too quick to dismiss scholarship (of past/future)
@doodhcha@sahilchapalgao1@HindolSengupta May be. Or, may be not. She quotes Goldman and Goldman's translation itself has been shown as inadequate. None questions Western academicians' sincerity or lifetime dedication. But, there's no harm in checking veracity of their translations by native Sanskrit scholars.
@IndusInsight@ThinkersPad Thanks for the photo - famed Tamil writer Jeyamohan (not a RW person) writes about the continuation of that vision (from pre-historic times) into recent history as an undescribable but tangible thread. The Tamil word for deity, esp. Vishnu, is Perumaal the large/magnificient one.
@ThinkersPad Funny! On one hand Evangelists like Caldwell filled the ears of Dravidianists 150 years back (the effects of which last till date) that marauding Aryans who brought IE languages and Vedas didn't have shrines and only worshipped fire/elements.
@ThinkersPad The better way to pose that question would be: 1 in 4000 seals (half-full) than 1 in 1.3 million Sq. Km (half-empty) - the proportionality would seem different. Finds like Mittani seal, Rosetta Stone aren't seminal because they were abundant but bcoz they inform
@ThinkersPad Most of the 1.3 million Sq Km of IVC or SSC is lying either in heavily populated areas of India or in Pakistan (who show selective outrage and ownership only when Indians claim to be progenitors of that infidel past, but won't spend more money in further digs or joint efforts).
@ThinkersPad If a 1800 year old votive of a person crucified appears as a find in the Levant, Western academics won't have to fight with anyone to to prove it's likely to be Jesus - even if it's well known that Romans used crucifixion for many adversaries, not just Jesus.
@1974Easwar62224@Iyervval@Utpal_Kumar1@AudreyTruschke Tendency to call anything Proto is akin to Dark energy/matter in Physics - just as a time filler, till details emerge. Details have emerged indeed, pushing the timeline of IE languages in the IVC region (Heggarty et al). Just that academia has brickwalled any attempt to renewal
@Razarumi One only hopes sanity (or even apathy of your compatriots) continues and that it doesn't suffer the same fate as Bamiyan Buddhas. If Pakistan is keen to co-own this heritage, first they can let go of hatred for Hindus, their forbears and who have cultural continuity with IVC