@the_mel_jar I believe it's a useful concept that has its place in practice, but it's almost dangerous in how easily it gives the therapist an "out" and how it can be misunderstood in motivated way for this reason.
@the_mel_jar I feel like misuses and misunderstandings of projective identification have been sort of damaging in my own experience trying to learn. It can really encourage externalizing uncomfortable feelings and making them the patient's problem, when that is not AT ALL the intent.
Book rec for those seeking a clear, easy to understand, yet nuanced and sophisticated breakdown of various aspects of the frame in therapy. Should be required reading in intro grad school courses imo. Not sure why I don't see it recommended more often for beginning therapists.
Sorry for being MIA lately, but I have been truly enjoying this amazing manosphere content that I discovered from this group based in Vienna. I really think this is THE specific manosphere scene to be paying particularly close attention to right now. Their podcast is gonna be 🔥
@FeistyKittyPie Tbh none of the therapists on this show are that great of role models! Like I love Dr Melfie as a character but I wouldn't take inspiration from her (or any fictional therapist for that matter!)
Honestly being in analysis and experiencing real analytic boundaries for the first time, then having to go back and unpack whatever the hell was actually going on in all of your previous therapy experiences, is such a trip!
@the_mel_jar Let's just say I've been there before (in the patient role, but honestly as a therapist too), and this kind of thing can feel confusing as hell on the patient's side if it never gets addressed properly
And this is partly why the therapist having a deep understanding of the transference is so important! Cause otherwise they can run the risk of unconsciously believing their adult patient IS literally a child, and end up holding them back in significant ways.
Adult patients aren’t literally babies or children.
In the transference, therapists of any age (or gender) can feel like the mother and/or the father of the patient of any age.
But the therapist is aware simultaneously of the fluidity of ages a patient may “seem like” AND is.
@proud_penelope maybe I'd also add: tolerating our guilt and the pain caused by our mistakes, and using them productively, if and when we do end up acting on feelings and intruding
@the_mel_jar I wonder if you've read anything by Ogden about analytic writing and what you'd think about it. He writes pretty explicitly about his own writing about cases as being always already a form of fiction: https://t.co/QXsGPKqnvm
@FeistyKittyPie I've read this paper before. If this was your takeaway after reading it then either I have serious doubts about your capacity for empathy and human feeling, or I have to assume your understanding of anything it's trying to say is very poor/nonexistent and you should be quiet.