@Logosecworte@poperespecter1@TradAnswers Brother, there’s nothing petty about it. The Pope celebrates the Novus ordo mass. The local bishop celebrates it. Sspx says they are in communion but won’t go to the mass the man with jurisdiction celebrates. This is a massive problem.
@Logosecworte@poperespecter1@TradAnswers Well, there you go, my friend. The mass the Vicar of Jesus Christ celebrates is gravely deficient according to you guys. Presumably you wouldn’t go to the Pope’s mass or receive communion at such a mass?
@Logosecworte@poperespecter1@TradAnswers Pretty sure Salza said multiple SSPX priests discouraged him from diocesan TLM.
There’s an SSPX video too where the priest says you don’t have to go to the new mass & if you can’t get to TLM, you can stay home. This is just not true and a wicked false-teaching.
@Logosecworte@poperespecter1 According to John Salza @TradAnswers (who went to their chapels for a decade) the SSPX discouraged him from going to diocesan latin mass. Not as if discouraging people from going to the Novus ordo mass is a good thing either.
@Logosecworte@poperespecter1 They don’t claim jurisdiction ok cool, but they discourage people from going to the diocesan mass and they do their own marriage tribunals. So they do everything BUT claim jurisdiction.
@Logosecworte@poperespecter1 They shouldn’t be doing their own marriage tribunals, where do they get this authority?
Gee, I’m glad they do everybody but claim jurisdiction 😅
@EyesToSee247@poperespecter1@Protestia You can look up the official Catholic teachings whenever you want in the Catechism.
What religion do you practice btw?
@EyesToSee247@poperespecter1@Protestia the Catholic Church can demand the Orthodox and SSPX to not call themselves Catholic. Yet it wouldn’t help heal divisions and they wouldn’t listen most likely. How does the Church operate in the modern day?
Point is, the organization is not an official Catholic group.
@StoicTradition@jarldietrich@Catholicizm1 Trads bash the Pope (and/or the hierarchy) constantly and then say “but don’t become a sede.” What do they think is going to happen?
@EyesToSee247@poperespecter1@Protestia The Anglican Church calls themselves Catholic as do the Orthodox Church, the SSPX, the Episcopalians as well. Means nothing.
@TLM_Ryan@jarldietrich That’s not even close to what happens at an average mass in an average parish. This is the mass that 95% of Catholics attend btw
@interject_robot@jarldietrich It really depends on what you mean. A lot of people don’t want to criticize their own group. It’s human nature. But even if we do have some wrong or misguided clergy at times, nobody forces a lay person to use contraception or get an abortion.
@RupnikClock@poperespecter1@AramisCatholic I suppose we can’t know for sure ok fine but the flippant way this man Fellay spoke about excommunication from the Catholic Church is frightening and disgusting.