@DavidDavisMP With all these empty high street units and shopping centre ones, why can't local councils open one multi bank (or hub if you prefer), they can waive business rates, & use ex bank staff that have been made redundant.
Making everything digital only is going to cause major issues.
@bmc875 Can't see how the govt can apply the findings only to the Nottingham nhs trust, it must be wider, obv to varying degrees of failure, and dangerous complacency may easily occur elsewhere.
It's like skating on thin ice, for some time you can get lucky and not fall through.
@IamTheSherm made a brilliant comparison recently in relation to Dewi Evans' air embolism claims & Carl Sagan's "The Dragon in My Garage." It's pretty much the perfect analogy. I'll elaborate...
Sagan's original example is that:
Your neighbour tells you they have a huge, fire breathing dragon living in their garage.
You say, “Great, let’s go see it.”
His reply: “You can’t see it, it’s invisible.”
You suggest spreading flour on the floor to look for footprints.
He says: “It floats in the air, so no footprints.”
You suggest using an infrared sensor to detect the heat from its fire.
His reply: “It’s a heatless fire.”
You propose using a detector for the smoke.
He counters: “It’s a smokeless fire.”
No matter what test is proposed, there is always a reason why it won’t work. The dragon is carefully defined so that no possible evidence can ever disprove it.
So with that, imagine Evans telling the court, “There’s a dragon in the garage. It’s invisible, it leaves no footprints, it breathes heatless fire, and it only appears when Lucy Letby is on shift.”
When asked for evidence, he points to the scorch marks on the floor, which other experts say could just as easily be from ordinary heat, or poor ventilation, or something entirely mundane.
When you suggest opening the garage door and looking inside with proper instruments, he replies that the dragon is incorporeal and your instruments aren’t sensitive enough anyway.
When the original dragon expert (Shoo Lee) steps forward and says, “That’s not how my dragons behave, you’ve completely misread my paper,” Evans simply insists his dragon is real and special. And so the dragon remains, unfalsifiable, unobservable, and yet somehow powerful enough to explain multiple deaths provided you never demand actual evidence that can survive rigorous scrutiny.
It’s a perfect Sagan dragon. The more you try to test it, the more the explanation retreats into “it’s just there, trust the pattern.” Extraordinary claims, extraordinary evidence and in this case, remarkably little of the latter.
@guyrowlanduk@Bungles71 It might have been useful if the defense had obtained baby insulin test result data (5 years say) from several labs to see if any came close to the ones in the trial.
@MartynPitman Taking into account this report and Thirlwall, I'm wondering if they recommend bringing in cctv and body worn cameras at some point, to cover every bed, cot etc...the medical negligence claims will increase without the major reform & changes you raise, so which way will they go??
@TobeHon29809726@Michelehal7344 Apparently a grey-haired Welshman, in a threadbare mustard-coloured jumper has been spotted driving a swanky Volvo hurriedly towards Nottingham Police Station, armed with a Costa coffee, repeatedly crying 'Why wasn't I called? This sounds like my kinda case!'
100%. British parliamentarians who protest that intervening in the Lucy Letby case would compromise the separation of powers have short memories.
Had Parliament implemented the Law Commission’s 2011 report Expert Evidence in Criminal Proceedings in England and Wales (Law Com No 325) and its draft Criminal Evidence (Experts) Bill – which the Government formally declined to enact in 2013 – it is increasingly hard to see how the expert case against #LucyLetby would ever have reached a jury in its present form.
Parliament was warned, after earlier miscarriages of justice, that unreliable and overconfident expert opinion was a systemic hazard and was given a statutory reliability test to address it. It chose not to act, largely on cost grounds.
To say now that Parliament "cannot" intervene because it must respectfully stand back from the judicial process is therefore more than a little limp: it was Parliament’s failure to legislate when it should have intervened that helped create the evidential landscape in which this conviction became possible.
It would be unconscionable if Lucy Letby were to spend the rest of her life in prison as the indirect result of what, in the final analysis, was a budgetary constraint.
@RichardHor54460 I was taken aback by Lindsay Hoyle's reaction, but looking things up he has reacted similarly against labour MPs who go over time, also to his credit he agreed with David Davis re cost of trial transcripts.
Not sure he's anti this case being raised, & DD used hoc privilege too.
Reason i know there is nothing suspicious regarding statistical data during the Lucy Letby era baby deaths, is because the hospital hired professionals to come in and analyse the data for them with the Silver Command project.
@DebbieKennett I like the idea of the NHS and want it to stay, but there is a sort of rot within it, obviously understaffing is a big factor but on my last visit to a ward, the overriding feeling was of patients being ignored while staff wander around a lot, or are glued to a PC screen.
@SplaneMark@Telegraph I actually did ask Grok 😅 and it agreed more with your take than mine.
I'm sure the Dame understands these matters far more than me, I just hope those in positions of power over this case recognise this high level concern.
@SplaneMark@Telegraph So if they were on the jury what would be their decision, surely 'not guilty' which in the English system means the same as innocent of the charge(s)?
The Scottish system had a not proven option.
It's still a very good development and am pleased she has spoken out.
@HenryTudorStan If the prosecution could have put a credible case for it being a 1 in 80 million possibility they would have, but decided instead to show the jury that texas shooter chart, and I doubt the CPS will be rushing to engage this chap and use him in any appeal or re-trial.