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The Michigan stadium holds 100,000 people.
Multiply the number of people by 21 = 2.1 million people
It takes the entire annual income tax from them to pay for the 1.69 million non-UK nationals who are either out of work or not seeking employment.
He is clearly an idiot. The UK is tiny part of that population change. And what has the rest of the world got to do with the discussion on killing people in the UK? Does he want to roll it out worldwide?
Is Lord Brooke, sitting one seat along from the sponsor of the Bill, advocating for assisted dying as a tool of population control? An extraordinary contribution suggesting human life be actively sacrificed to prevent climate change. This bill drives utilitarian thinking!
Labour bleat this is going to ‘smash the gangs’ as people won’t pay to be deported.
- Hardly anyone is going to get deported
- So if you get here you get here for good most likely
- And all the gangs have to do is ‘BOGOF’
- If you are deported you can cross for free next time
@CapelLofft But I admit it’s a lot more complex once one digs a bit deeper. Tradition now means Whig inherited ideals whereas radical now means blowing up the settlement and cementing the political class and ‘court’ as rulers.
Dangerous times.
@K_Niemietz He’s poor, brown, muslim and seeking asylum albeit from a regime that convicted him of being an Islamic terrorist.
That’s 10 points on the oppression scale. That’s enough to forgive him one rape, 10 violent assaults or 50 street robberies.
Have a heart! /s
@CapelLofft Not enough of them to be ‘core’. There are however plenty on 35k+holidays+pension. Millions. And almost all will be Labour voters.
One could probably make the same charts by Self employed/sole trader, Private Sector, Public sector, unemployed and have a neat line to Labour
“People do not like facing up to the fact that they made bad choices.” Quite. And the inability to differentiate between poor choices and bad luck is a big contributor to our current situation.
I was only dimly aware of Charlie Kirk. I knew I liked him, but I don't make much room for American politics or personalities. Since his murder, though, I've taken the time to get to know what he was about - and I like him even more.
He was a man certain in his own moral framework and an expert in his own ideology. It made him supremely confident and articulate in ways that most of us only ever manage in moments in our lives. Particularly, he was a master of rhetoric. He would often answer a question with another question. This is often the most effective way of highlighting an absurdity.
As to his beliefs, I didn't find him all that controversial. He believed in the conventional family model and traditional gender roles. These ideas are considered outmoded and old fashioned by modern progressives, but Kirk would often point out that those who strayed furthest from that path were the least fulfilled, the least happy, and the least healthy in mind and body.
For many, this is an uncomfortable truth - especially since Kirk had obviously found such fulfilment and comfort in his faith and his ideology. People do not like facing up to the fact that they made bad choices.
In fact, this explains much of the contemporary left; people living bad lives as a result of their poor choices but always finding someone or something else to blame - be it racism or systemic oppression. Progressive ideology looks for oppressors as a scapegoat. Everyone has a sob story, everyone has an excuse. Nobody wants to be held accountable for their own choices.
But ultimately, you are always accountable - not least to yourself. You have to live with your own choices - and to be told you are the author of your own misfortunes is often too much for many to bear. That's why he was considered a "bigot" and a "fascist" by the left. He was not one to coddle people as the left do, and say "yes, you're oppressed and disadvantaged". His message was that we each have it within ourselves to make better choices, to work harder, to work on ourselves and become better people. But that's often not what people want to hear. They want their excuses validated.
As a society we have given into this therapeutic validation. That explains the leftist political agenda: It is not us who must grow and change from within. Society instead must change to accommodate our bad choices. Our failures must be regarded as equal to success. Success is no longer praised or celebrated. In the eyes of the left someone is only successful because they either oppressed someone or were themselves in some way advantaged. Of course some people are advantaged and some are uniquely disadvantaged, but the solution is not to hobble those who are advantaged. That way, nobody ever wins and nobody can be lifted up.
As such, those who are invested in blaming the world for their personal failures not only don't want to hear Charlie Kirk's message. They want it suppressed. This explains much of leftist activism which is devoted to censorship, cancellation, unpersoning and revenge.
Charlie Kirk proved time after time that these peope cannot hold their own in a debate without resorting to labels and insults. This is a man who routinely humiliated leftists in the eyes of the world without even breaking a sweat. Worse still, he did it with flair, courtesy, and respect. He embodies much of what any of us would aspire to be. So in the eyes of the left, he deserved to die... and they're glad he's dead.
I can't say I agreed with Charlie Kirk on everything. I actually find his traditionalist views a little stunted. What works for him, and most conventional people, doesn't work for everyone and there are no absolutes, especially the abortion debate. The path is not straightforward for everyone. But all the same, he was fearless in the way in which he articulated his ideas, and invited and encouraged others to do with same - recognising that free and open debate is the only real path to the truth.
Those who want to shut down debate are those who are afraid of facts and truth, or have no faith in the strength and validity of their own arguments. They instead shut the debate down by demonising others, calling them fascists. If you can present your opponent as mortally beyond the pale then you have all the justification you need not to engage with their arguments. It is singularly dishonest - and dangerous.
In standing up to say challenging and unfashionable things, Charlie Kirk was courageous. In attempting to give young people direction and moral purpose, he was a true leader. He set out a path for people to follow to find their own truth. As such, his murderer has taken away something special from us all. There is a reason his loss is felt across the world. It was an act of pure spite and envy.
In recent days there has been debate as to whether Tyler Robinson was left wing or right wing. I think that would have been immaterial to Charlie Kirk. He would have seen a man corrupted by sinful ideas and in need of salvation. He would just as readily have dismantled the ideas of his killer whatever those ideas were inspired by. Kirk was only an "extremist" in his devotion to reason - but tempered by his faith. I am reminded of a quote from the monk in the final episode of Babylon 5. "Faith and reason are like the shoes on your feet. You can get further with both than you can with just one". Nobody better exemplified this than Charlie Kirk.
@DefiantLs I like how these idiots frame it as "Oh I just care about his daughter if she was forced to go through with a pregnancy"
Yet they don't care that the daughter just watched their father die in front of them
More that the character of the ‘rich’ [actually higher income households] has changed. Now the state lanyard classes are a significant portion of households you’ll see this effect.
Oh and the retired lanyard teachers etc will be in this category too. It isn’t the workers.
@PippyBing@when_cats_away Ah but oppression, white privilege, lack of translators and full time support, people who said ‘no’, lack of state funded fruit in their diet, lack of opportunity for people who refused to go to school etc mean we need to excuse awful and criminal behaviour by the selected groups
@OC_motorcop@crebj@MattWallace888 Can be done and is a good idea. Not enough duration without being heavy enough to trigger a lot of hassle for clearance from FAA. No flying near crowds etc.
@OxfordUnion But once he’s in as President he WILL be the views of the Oxford Union.
The Union gave Charlie Kirk and Tommy Robinson a floor to debate their views which was great. Now you are giving deeply hateful people like Abaraonye power they don’t deserve as they have no judgement.
@AtticumFloreat I think it’s a case of conjugation
I am speaking the truth
You are objectionable
He is a racist homophobic bigot
We need to take action
You are dangerous
They deserve to die