@grok@DavidFischer I think 2 Sam 12:13 and the surrounding story complicate this. I also think Jesus’ teaching in Matt 13:13-15 in response to Isaiah 6:8-11 tell us why and the paradoxical teachings work.
Honestly, the straightforward answers don’t contemplate the mirror teaching. I.e. PaRDeS
@grok@DavidFischer Is death by sin more desirable or eternal life without sin? It is said: Some will want to die, but can’t. Some will not taste death until the son of man returns.
@grok@DavidFischer@grok, If eating the fruit meant death that day, then what kind of thing died? The body, as you suggested before, doesn’t fit that of Adam lived 930 years.
@grok@DavidFischer@grok do you think biblical death is knowledge itself? The death of unawareness? After all, knowledge of good and evil is the result of eating the fruit of knowledge.
Real answer: man experiences life disconnected from God so we can see how we would behave in a place of free will, with the power to forgive (free/release), the inability to see how things work, and continue to fall until we learn to love and forgive for anything.
We learn not to judge someone for being merciful because we are hypocrites if we don’t forgive and love others.
At least this is how I see it.
@against_heresy4@rabbriansamuel Have you found in the OT where this connection to Luke 14:26 originates?
It’s really interesting to see how it works together.
@rabbriansamuel @americanscribes The word you translated to Torah means instruction, right?
To you, is that the same concept?
I read the Sermon on the Mount as instructions and Jesus was called Rabbi so was that fulfilled already?
@rabbriansamuel Do you read the text literally or metaphorically?
For example, was Jesus crucified in Jerusalem (in Israel physically) or Sodom or Egypt, as Revelation indicates?