@VnsObi This list is the real roadmap once tools write state. Model quality is table stakes. Bounded authority, idempotency, rollback, and a clear stop condition are what keep users from yanking permission after the first partial write.
@DevAsService Yep. Prompt fit is table stakes. Production is unexpected input, dead dependencies, and a failure the user can see without reading logs. That's the actual shipping surface.
@ThomasBurkhartB Single-run green is how demos lie. The useful bar is: same scenario twice, did the side effects stay inside the contract? If not, you don't have a flaky test - you have an undefined product.
@HamelHusain@sh_reya This is the part most teams skip. Code evals for the cheap, objective failures; LLM judges only where judgment is the product. Otherwise you drown in eval debt and still miss the state-change bugs.
Users don't yank permission because the agent was wrong.
They yank it because nothing moved for 40 seconds and it looked frozen.
If a tool chain can take longer than a blink, show status: which tool, what it's waiting on, what already changed.
Silence is a product bug.
@AbleVeez A rollback you hope to run later isn't a control. Before the write is allowed: what reverses it, who owns that reverse, and how long until it's too late. Otherwise the agent has permission to hope.
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Fingerprinting tool signatures is the right stop - same as rate-limiting a human who keeps refreshing the same query.
@sandeepj Agreed, if only the builder can diagnose a bad run, you shipped a dependency, not a product.
My bar: a teammate who's never seen the prompt can say what changed, what didn't, and whether to trust the next attempt.
Don't give the agent tools until you've written the contract.
Inputs. Allowed side effects. Success check. What the user sees when it fails.
If that page doesn't exist, you're not shipping a product - you're hoping the model improvises one.
@im_pranavkakde Exactly. Scoring the reply grades a chatbot. Scoring the side effect grades an agent. โDoneโ without a state check is how you ship confidence theater.
@DefiantLs Same rule as onboarding a new hire: no root on day one. Agents need a scoped workspace, short-lived credentials, and a deny that actually fails closed. If the model can talk past the boundary, you donโt have a boundary.
@HamelHusain This. Writing evals before looking at failures is how you optimize for the wrong bar. Pull 20 real traces first, cluster what broke, then write the checks. Model swaps are the expensive way to avoid reading the data.
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@pranay01 This is the tell that agents left demo mode: they need the same prod nervous system humans do. Next hard problem is least privilege on that MCP surface so a debugging agent can't become a write agent by accident.
@bazfurby Traces are table stakes. The gap I still see is most dashboards show what the agent did, not whether the user outcome was right. Pair tool traces with task completion and time-to-correct or you're optimizing for pretty logs.
@rubengarciaes I agree cost per completed task is the right unit. Token charts hide retries, dead tool loops, and the human cleanup after a wrong side effect. If that number isn't falling, the agent isn't getting better.
Human-in-the-loop is not a safety feature if every approval is one click and nobody reads the diff.
If reviewers rubber-stamp tool calls, you didn't add a human. You added latency.
Make the approval show what will change, what can't be undone, and what happens if they say no.
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