@Phil_Jones01@kennygfrederick@Keir_Starmer Back down in the real (vs your dream) world
You’re celebrating AB’s usurping of a role he’s done nothing to earn & doesn’t deserve is something to be proud of.
Like Farage, AB has no mandate to be leader…other than the weak PLP.
Or, like Trump, are you rejecting democracy, too?
@kazrg9z@Keir_Starmer@andyburnham@LucyMPowell@AngelaRayner@UKLabour Their arrogance in plotting to thwart the wishes of the electorate is disgraceful. I’ve heard the arguments that you vote for your constituency candidate and not the PM but in a GE the Party Leader matters hugely! Let’s face it, it was Keir Starmer for whom we were voting!
@ChaplainChloe@_Hinkypunk And members aren't happy either. This was a coup planned for over a year. There is nothing principled, ethical or moral about it. The PLP is a disgrace and AB has blatantly deceived and betrayed the people of Gtr Manchester. Ugly. behaviour.
@Vinc_Ev_ It's the same thing as Burnham saying he was going to fix Makerfield. Which meant Josh Simons was useless - but he's got a plumb job in Burnham's team now.
What's even crazier is that very few in the PLP know anything real about Burnham's record as mayor.
@Anniepop2027@LBC And it's hardly intelligent to broadcast to the world that the guy who insisted he had no plans to make trouble for the govt or Keir Starmer - when he wanted the NEC to approve him running for Gorton & Denton and Makerfield - was lying through his teeth.
Melanie, your right to nominate Andy Burnham is beyond dispute. What is very much in dispute is your assertion that the Labour Party has somehow united behind him. That is not a statement of fact. It is a political opinion, and one that a vast number of Labour members simply do not recognise.
Louise Haigh has now publicly confirmed that planning for Andy Burnham's return began just over a year after Labour entered government and continued over the following year. That is an extraordinary revelation. It makes clear that this was not a sudden response to recent events, but a carefully developed process that unfolded over many months. Yet throughout that entire period the membership, the very people who give the Labour Party its strength, were never consulted and were never afforded any meaningful voice in determining the future leadership of their own party.
Thousands of members have already resigned. Many thousands more remain because they still believe the Labour Party is worth fighting for, but they do not recognise the picture you seek to paint. There is no great unity. There is a widening gulf between the Parliamentary Labour Party and a substantial section of its membership, and no amount of carefully chosen language can disguise that reality.
You entered Parliament only in 2024. With respect, that affords little authority to lecture the wider Labour movement about unity, democracy or the settled will of the membership. Many of those whose concerns you dismiss have devoted decades of their lives to the Labour Party, campaigning in difficult times, delivering elections, raising funds and sustaining the movement long before you took your seat at Westminster. They have earned the right to be heard, not ignored.
The Parliamentary Labour Party is not the Labour Party. It is one part of it. The membership are not an inconvenience to be managed, nor a backdrop to be acknowledged only at election time. They are the foundation upon which the party has always stood. To claim that the party has united, while so many members feel excluded from the very process that determined its future, is not merely premature. It is a profound misunderstanding of the movement you now claim to represent. History has shown that political parties which lose the confidence of their members rarely recover it by pretending the division does not exist.
@DawnButlerBrent@UKLabour@andyburnham Dawn, you had that leader. Sir Kier Starmer our current ELECTED PM, elected with a huge majority. A politician hugely respected and valued on the world stage. Unfortunately, members of the Labour Party have stabbed him in the back. I suspect Labour is now a busted flush.
She couldn’t help herself, she quite literally said it, she wanted the glory of being the MP behind the coup, she couldn’t stop smirking while she was talking, she’ll have been chastised by Burnham, she’s let her ego trip them both up,by admitting it was a year in the planning!
@DawnButlerBrent@UKLabour@andyburnham You’re an uninspiring bore. I cannot be the only person not remotely impressed with your enthusiasm for Burnham.
Where was he when Starmer fought to make you lot electable again ?
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Your sitting around a table talking about policies and people sitting with you are plotting to take you down.People working against you having meeting on how to do that.People the PM trusted.Of course some stayed loyal to the PM but not enough to stop this.Disloyal to a good man.
@Anniepop2027@calculus52@LBC They effectively used Keir to win the election, then highjacked his majority. If he was so bad, why didn’t they get rid of him when he was LOTO.
I write this, as a now ex Lab memb. Like others I’ve left the Pty because of the underhand way that Burnham has behaved. I’m more disappointed in the PLP and their constant fawning posts about him with no acknowledgement of Starmer’s hard work, as if the last 6 yrs didn’t happen
What an excellent achievement under the leadership of @Keir_Starmer the best PM we’ve had in decades. Shame on all those who plotted to oust him. Only an honourable person can beat Farage. @andyburnham is NOT honourable.
@Matthew_Patrick I don't recognise your characterisation.
Are you talking about the same Andy Burnham who schemed and plotted with sacked Ministers - a year after GE 2024 - to depose the Labour PM & replace with himself ?
Yep.
I thing you're describing a different person.
I see, suddenly, that X , facebook, etc are suddenly awash with Labour MPs social feeds NOW telling us the good things Labour have done so far.
And they are on team Andy
Where were they during the last 2 yrs?
We know what Nandy, Powell, Phillips, Haigh ,Simons etc were doing.