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[morgan @morganquirk5]

Uhhhhhh https://t.co/1aOnFkdeiE

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@MikeStillAwake Just like the dirty break, functionally that is what it does. But, I do think some in DSA take the surrogate idea seriously. The problem is that the strategy is wrong. For some it is dishonest though yes.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

This seems true and is really unfortunate.

[quirknky.bsky.social @Quirknky]

This is because we’ve synthesized on electoral strategy. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say party surrogate is, while not necessarily a consensus, an overwhelmingly popular position that isn’t going away anytime soon. There isn’t really a notable ‘clean break now’ faction.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

There are essentially two paths, and this is one of them. It will not work. I hope that as the warning signs against this strategy increasingly blare, it will be possible for the movement to shift to the other path, where we rely primarily on movements not fake allies.

[ophie 🦋💕 @opheliamoding]

why are a lot of left-wing people unnerved by this. he’s going to be totally ratfucked by Albany if he doesn’t at least try to play nice and there is no amount of aurafarming that can overcome that

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@0x262d sorry he is not

[morgan @morganquirk5]

Is the “dirty break” still a thing? What’s the hold up, actually? Is there really a perspective for a perfect time coming up just around the corner or what?

[Labor Notes @labornotes]

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[morgan @morganquirk5]

@escargotpro_ @luxeprogressive But I feel this isn’t the main problem with running on their ballot line. The issue is that socialists are gradually seen by most people as a certain type of Democrat, and not as an alternative to + against the two parties.

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[Danielle Deiseroth @danielledeis]

Our post-election report is out today! Voters across party lines wanted to see major changes in politics and the economy — but they saw Democrats as committed to upholding the system.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

He’s unlikely to do it but it would be extremely good if he did. If he fails to lead on this again we need to do it without him.

[David Griscom @DavidGriscom]

Getting unexpected texts from family members asking if it’s possible Bernie might launch an actual working class party.

There’s real excitement for something different all across the country

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@imirish314 Yup read it earlier. Prompted me to check my memory about how we’ve always talked about these issues.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

A good article by Kshama Sawant from 2016 about supporting Jill Stein. The political balance and approach is similar to how we raise these points now. https://t.co/Wmf5q0hq01

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@PatrickTShep What I mean is, why and how did the parties develop in this way in American history? I think the, I guess, “traditional” view you are opposing here is pretty good for understanding the development and changes they underwent as parties…

[morgan @morganquirk5]

There’s no way to arrive at this idea by looking at a real historical process. You can only discover this idea if you already have a chosen political strategy, and that strategy needs some kind of theoretical justification.

[Socialist Alternative @SocialistAlt]

Contrary to what the Democrats said at the time, the right wing was not defeated when Trump lost in 2020, in fact it grew under Biden. This is exactly what socialists warned would happen. The Democrats can’t stop the right, but mass protests and working-class action can.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

Dems are totally unable to stop the far right from continuing to rise.

[merritt k (not really here anymore) @merrittk]

this is the most important election of your life until the next one at which point the stakes of this election will seem meaningless in comparison. elections is a lot like dragon ball z in that respect

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@imirish314 @leciurroz @Red_Ranson We all agree on political independence, my point is about those two specific innovations.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

I’m voting for Stein but really disagree with the “punish the Democrats” argument. They will not “learn” anything from losing because they’re not dumb. They like winning elections, sure, but they like imperialism more.

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@justin0x77D @rsdlpb_fan Is ignoring*

[morgan @morganquirk5]

@justin0x77D @rsdlpb_fan Justin, I feel this particular comment is out of the blue and not ignoring the many responses to these points in this discussion. Don’t forget, you are the ones innovating on electoral tactics here, we are raising the same general political points we have in past elections.