Quarantining travelers vs. locking down countries later while letting thousands or millions to die should have been an easy choice. Western countries already knew well enough what they were up against. No excuse for inaction.
@mgubrud@elonmusk Bluesky is now emerging as that network. Haven't seen you there yet. Interested in joining? I've got an invite for you if you want it.
@henrikytonen@jvsalminen @MiskaSiikaluoma @HarriLaine FIL on tehnyt kuitenkin tuoreita somepäivityksiä, eli eiköhän ne vielä ole olemassa vaikka sivut maissa.
@henrikytonen@jvsalminen @MiskaSiikaluoma @HarriLaine Pikavilkaisulla seura ei ole pahemmin tiedotellut ja nigerialaisfirman sivut ei vastaa. Kaikki lienee siis hyvin.
@ThomasMetzinger Any plans joining Bluesky?
There's already a pretty large and growing consciousness community there and lots of philosophers and researchers in many fields who would no doubt want to see you there too.
You can ping me with DM if you need an invite code.
@jliski@rahikainen68@Martinlaineolen Aiemmassa artikkelissa mainitaan, että pysähdys Kaliningradissa olisi ollut aikatauluun kuulumaton. Mutta se näkyy tässä alkuperäiseltä vaikuttavassa aikataulussa. Suunniteltu kesto tosin 1 eikä 2 päivää (2.9-3.9).
@jliski@rahikainen68@Martinlaineolen Miksi se olisi siirretty toiseen alukseen tai miksi yleensä tarvittaisiin monimutkaisempaa tapahtumaketjua? NNPB:n kulkureitti näyttää täsmäävän kaikkiin vauriokohtiin ja putken jälkeen ankkurin varsi näyttäisi jääneen laahaamaan E-Finestin poikki.
@erikkannike@shashj@SamChambers Based on the latest HS story and some additional checks, it looks like there's no official ownership relation between Torgmoll and Newnew.
But they do have some same individuals as owners and managers.
@erikkannike@shashj I think the Newnew Shipping as subsidiary of Torgmoll version is based on this https://t.co/U9QnPGBUgv story.
Maybe @SamChambers could comment on where that info came from?
https://t.co/AECLGCSnWO
@reinout1975@SariArhoHavren @minna_alander @jojjeols @elisabethbraw @patrikoksanen At least some of it is publicly and openly available as I was looking at that same data on Chinese business info services a few days ago. But some of it was more limited, unclear how up to date it is, and the official system refused to give me data for the main Newnew company.
@shashj@VanhaPollo@krp_poliisi Case in point: Them attempting to contact the ship. It only happened after it had already left St. Petersburg. Many of us looking at this closely through open sources considered it to be the main suspect way before that and from that viewpoint it looked like they were just slow.
@shashj@VanhaPollo@krp_poliisi I wouldn't be surprised at all if at least that crew change would be news to them.
It has looked like the official investigation happens more slowly step by step than open source ones, which do not wait for near complete certainty before advancing to the next steps.