@IMPERATORAUS A question for Roman Catholics:
Who actually determines what is considered an accurate or legitimate interpretation of Sacred Tradition/ Church History?
Roman Catholicism isn't the default.
I'm not sure his list is the correct solution, since it includes kneeling and clerical vestments.
Kneeling for Sunday worship was forbidden in the ancient Church because kneeling was the posture of slaves, not brethren. As Jesus arose from the dead, so we ought to rise to a standing posture when we worship Him on the day He rose from the dead. At least, that's the reason they gave for prohibiting kneeling on Sundays. E.g., "We have received from our divine Fathers the canon law that in honour of Christ’s resurrection, we are not to kneel on Sundays.” (Council of Trullo, Canon 90). Kneeling for worship wasn't introduced until the high middle ages (c. 12th century) to worship the consecrated bread and wine, something that was foreign to the ancient Church, and which the Reformed community condemns. Kneeling for worship on Sundays is a comparatively recent novelty and thus, kneeling is what is actually "detached from history."
And clerical garments, too, are "detached from history." https://t.co/zGLkQabMCz
Clerical garments were not introduced until the late 4th century when the sacrifice of the church changed from the Eucharist tithe offering to the Eucharistic offering of the "body & blood of Christ." When people began to think they were offering a propitiatory Levitical sacrifice rather than a tithe offering, they started thinking the priests ought to be celibate and should wear different garments than the laypeople. Before that, ministers were married, had children, and wore the same garments as the common folk—because they didn't think they were offering a propitiatory sacrifice in the Sunday liturgy.
I mean no disrespect, but if you add clerical garments and kneeling, you'll be driving young men into the arms of Rome. (Why only go part way?).
Want to keep the next generation out of Rome? Teach them that Roman Catholicism arose out of the pit of hell and that the Eucharist they offer is an abominable idol, "detached from history," and the priests who offer it in their clerical vestments are after the order of Aaron not the order of Melchizedek.
Once you know that, you'll discover that kneeling and clerical vestments are the real "gimmicks and pageantry." No need for such gimmicks to distract young men from that fact. Preach that, and you won't need kneeling or clerical vestments to keep them.
The second Council of Nicæa stands far below the first in moral dignity and doctrinal importance, and occupies the lowest grade among the seven cumenical synods; but it determined the character of worship in the oriental church for all time to come, and herein lies its significance. Its decision is binding also upon the Roman church, which took part in it by two papal legates, and defended it by a letter of Pope Hadrian to Charlemagne in answer to the Libri Carolini. Protestant churches disregard the council because they condemn image-worship as a refined form of idolatry and as a fruitful source of superstition; and this theory is supported by the plain sense of the second commandment, the views of the primitive Christians, and, negatively, by the superstitions which have accompanied the history of image-worship down to the miracle-working Madonnas of the nineteenth century.
---Schaff, History of the Church
Since Wes Huff's brilliant conversation with @joerogan went live, there has been a lot of discussion about something as seemingly arcane as the Great Isaiah Scroll (GIS) from Qumran.
In Scribes & Scripture (@crossway), we mention this scroll several times...-->
Lies.
If Luther wasn't a threat they wouldn't have to lie about him.
"But today, many speak only of the forgiveness of sins and say nothing or very little about repentance. Yet there is no forgiveness of sins without repentance."
- Martin Luther, 1538
Quote in full ⬇️
It's pretty funny to see the brothers view as the one accused of twisting scripture. It's the non-brothers view that has to twist Scripture to where firstborn doesn't really mean firstborn, until doesn't really mean until, and that brothers doesn't really mean brothers.
And you don't seem to actually be familiar with history on this topic either. Mainstream scholarship such as Carol, Meier, and Lightfoot all accept that within the first several centuries two views (half brothers and step siblings) existed side by side and it isn't until much later the cousin view gained predominance. There isn't any "indisputable evidence" against the half brothers view.
So, if I'm following, Mary protected a concrete statue of herself but let the home of those who pray to her and worship her burn to the ground?
Talk about vain and selfish!
The real Mary would be appalled at what the Catholic Church has done to her. If you see this and are a Catholic, please watch this short presentation of the true Gospel: https://t.co/4Y6cV5Hnss
Propaganda and disinformation. While it’s true that some old scholars optimistically dated it to the 3rd century, nowadays in the light of the latest palaeographic research, the date should be moved to the 6th/7th or even 8th/9th century.
Check for example:
(1) https://t.co/26DKZSQiI9
(2) https://t.co/YQOOTJBj7B
If I had to guess, he probably thinks you have some ulterior motive by repeatedly asking. He isn't exactly anonymous. It's even on his blog
https://t.co/nOmXsCTkvg
It also isn't exactly relevant for the posts he typically makes.
I don't see any reason to doubt his faith. I think even saying this is a bit silly
@BaptistInvite@extranosky@whpub There isn't anything wrong with a Presbyterian using his platform within the context of Roman Catholic polemics. If that's what he's interested in, and what he's good at, then I'm glad he does.
The thumbnail says PCA.