@WorldByWolf@mattwridley Knock a 100,000 off immediately an debate is a £10B saving right there, with Another 100,000 over say 5 years. And then keep the pressure downwards.
@Nigel_Farage@Sozzinski We need a new countryside party to tell the city folk to go do one - country folk know how to manage the countryside, the greenery and the animals and we don’t need armchair city folk telling us what to do.
@JChimirie66677 I don't do politics publicly, but i stand with the Farmers on inheritance tax (I have posted on that previously) and these arrests are a horrendous abuse of power. The cities should be ashamed of their attitude to the countryside.
@Adam8Knight@Ed_Miliband It is worse that that @Adam8Knight What labour are proposing is not even technically (or behaviourally) achievable. So all that cost and pain for a nothing, no achievement, nada - a real net zero gain for everyone
You could subscribe to fancy financial news sites for analysis or you could use Julian’s budget bingo card below for what our beloved Chancellor’s budget will contain later this year – please enjoy.
(Compiled with a little bit of human intelligence backed by the services of multiple AI LLMs.)
UK 26 Nov Budget predictions
07 November 2025
11:42
UK Budget for 26 Nov 25: Plausible Revenue-Raising Measures (Prredictions as of 7 Nov 25)
This paper assess options reportedly under discussion for closing a fiscal gap near £50bn/yr. Figures are indicative steady-state yields; near-term takes can be smaller if phased.
Ranked Revenue Options (Updated with Latest HMT Modelling)
Rank & MeasureWhat might change (plain English)Why it’s on the table / signalsIndicative annual yield
1) Income tax: +1–2p across bandsLift the basic (20%), higher (40%) and additional (45%) rates by 1–https://t.co/gMWtSwer9l, high-yield lever; +1p widely cited at £10–11bn; +2p at £20–22bn. Politically bold but effective.+1p ≈ £10–11bn +2p ≈ £20–22bn
2) Extend freeze of income tax & NI thresholdsKeep personal allowance (£12,570) and higher-rate threshold (£50,270) frozen longer (“fiscal drag”).Stealth revenue; protects headline rate pledges; already in place until 2028 — extension adds £8–10bn.≈ £8–10bn (grows over time)
3) Employer NI on investment income (>£50k)Apply employer NI (~15.05%) to dividends, carried interest, and other investment income above £50k for owner-directors and high earners.Closes “worker vs owner” gap; Labour pledge-compatible; HMT now modelling full scope.≈ £4–6bn (IFS Nov 2025)
4) NICs on LLP partners (“employer NI” parity)Apply employer NI (~15%) to working partners in LLPs and some partnerships.Think-tank favourite; levels playing field with employees.≈ £1bn
5) Fuel duty: reverse 5p cut / resume indexationReverse 2021 temporary 5p/litre cut and/or resume RPI indexation from 2026.OBR assumes reversal later; bringing forward yields £1.8–2.2bn in-year.5p reversal ≈ £4–5bn steady-state In-year (2026/27) ≈ £1.8–2.2bn
6) Pensions tax relief reformFlat-rate relief at 30% (or reduce annual allowance to £40k) instead of 40%/45% for higher earners.~50% of relief goes to top 10%; framed as fairness for basic-rate taxpayers.≈ £3–5bn (IFS central case)
7) NICs on rental incomeLevy NI (e.g., 8%) on landlords’ net rental profits up to higher-rate band.Broadens base beyond ‘working people’; regular HMT option.≈ £2–3bn (design-dependent)
8) Capital gains tax (structural fixes)End CGT uplift at death; tighten Business Asset Disposal Relief; limit other exemptions.IFS: rate hikes underperform — structural fixes score better.End uplift ≈ £1.6bn Relief tightening ≈ £1–2bn
9) Non-dom regime: 2-year FIG + trust crackdownShorten Foreign Income & Gains regime from 4 to 2 years; end protected trust loopholes.Manifesto commitment; HMT now sees higher yield from tougher enforcement.≈ £2.5–3bn
10) Council tax: top-band surge / partial rebandingDouble Bands G–H charges; add Band I; limited revaluation in high-value areas.Targets property wealth; long reform case. Devolved opt-out risk.≈ £3–4bn over time (~£3.3–3.8bn UK-wide by 2029/30)
11) VAT base broadening (not headline rate)Lower VAT registration threshold (£90k → £30–60k); move some reduced-rate items to 20%.Avoids inflation hit of rate rise; fits efficiency narrative.Threshold cut to ~£30k ≈ £2bn Other changes vary
12) R&D relief cap + bank surcharge +1ppCap SME R&D credit; raise bank corporation tax surcharge from 3% to 4%.Low political cost; targets profit-shifting and subsidy abuse.≈ £1.5–2bn combined
13) Air Passenger Duty (APD) tiltsFurther increases on premium cabins / private jets on top of RPI.Already hiked; scope for ‘polluter pays’ tweaks.≈ £0.2–0.6bn
14) Inheritance tax (targeted relief reforms)Tighten agricultural & business reliefs; include more pensions in IHT; refine residence nil-rate band.Narrows avoidance; protects typical family homes.Up to ~£1–2bn (package)
15) EV “pay-per-mile” duty (~3p/mile from ~2028)Distance-based charge on EVs (~3p/mile), reconciled annually via odometer or app (separate from VED).Replaces eroding fuel duty; press reports of ~£250/driver/yr average.≈ £1.0–1.3bn early years Rising to ~£1.8bn by ~2031
Illustrative £50bn Package (In-Year 2026/27 → Steady-State)
MeasureIn-Year Take (2026/27)Steady-State
Income tax +1.5p across bands£15–16bn£15–16bn
Threshold freeze extension£8–10bn£9–11bn
Employer NI on investment income£4–5bn£5–6bn
NI on landlords£2–3bn£2–3bn
Fuel duty partial reversal£1.8–2.2bn£4–5bn
Pensions relief reform£3–4bn£4–5bn
CGT structural fixes£1.6–2bn£2.5–3bn
Council tax top-band move£2bn£3.3–3.8bn
Non-dom tightening£2.5bn£2.5–3bn
VAT threshold cut£2bn£2bn
Total£42–49bn£53–60bn+
If still short in-year, a +1pp VAT rise (~£9–10bn by 2029/30) remains a backstop — but politically least likely.
Notes & Caveats
•Yields drawn from HMRC ready-reckoners, IFS Green Budget 2025, Resolution Foundation, OBR March 2025, and financial press (FT, Telegraph, Nov 2025 leaks).
•Steady-state = full-year effect after phasing. In-year reflects 2026/27 start (e.g., Apr 2026 or part-year).
•Behavioural responses (e.g., CGT forestalling, landlord incorporation, pension withdrawal spikes) can reduce net take by 10–25%.
•Devolution risk: Scotland/Wales may resist council tax and EV duty — reduces UK yield by ~8–10%.
•EV mileage duty grows with fleet size; becomes £5bn+ by mid-2030s as fuel duty collapses.
@mazemoore Can someone now sink without trace all vials and information relating to Bovea and ensure our milk is free of inserted poisons? It was crazy even before this semi-U turn; it is a criminal assault on our health now.
@Scobleizer Yes, but what actually want is a committee of Grok, ChatGPT, Claude et al. Different skills and viewpoints. (Also no two LLMs hallucinate in the same way, so risk of error drops dramatically. )
Welll about 2 years ago you cancelled my new Tesla X order that I had waited 2 years (!!!) for you to fulfill. I understand you stop selling RHD Xs for UK but really why was I not sold anything for 2 years?
The good countervailing news is that I still drive the Tesla X we bought 8 years ago and it is going strong (and you still pay our supercharger fillups - thanks!!)