i think that's true for most of us honestly; it's just not a take that would spread as widely
imo a BIG part of this is whether you're problem- or method-oriented. if you're problem-oriented, you'd recalibrate to a new normal quickly or enjoy the craft more with richer tradeoffs
these models are really good at pattern matching and thereby variant analysis.
“iterate through security fix commits and find similar vulnerabilities / unpatched areas of the same variants. write runnable pocs for valid ones.” is enough to uncover surface-level or even P0 vulnerabilities in a codebase with the latest models.
i believe for proof of cyber capabilities, these models should exhibit discovery of novel attack vectors that requires understanding of runtime behavior with and without tooling? like emulating the runtime in CoT/reasoning?
for instance, the react2shell vulnerability was ingenious. without stuffing in context and nudging/handholding (ehem like some experiments going on), can these models find a similar attack vector with a prompt like “loop until you find a p0/critical security vulnerability”?
that’s what i’d like to see. these models can claim P0 findings with contractual mismatches for say cryptographic implementations but the impact could just be some DoS that’s being prevented by a parent thread.
this is where i see the moat with good harnesses. trust-boundary and threat model understanding, a sandbox environment with the right “win function” for pocs to run on (if xyz happens, it’s a valid vuln), etc. does make the models spit out impressive vulns. this is sort of what we do @winfunction.
cus most vulnerabilities are easily traceable given a comprehensible source-to-sink flow which these models have been good at for a long while now.
and with respect to exploit dev, i strongly believe it’s mostly a tooling problem. with the right tool calls and model digestible outputs of say tracing tools, memory layout, syscalls, threads/processes, and a debugger interface, i think the frontier models can pull off complex multi-chain exploits. (we have run some experiments here and the models are not too bad at this)
security vulnerabilities have a definitive “win function”, like a flag in a ctf, like popping a calc, like ASAN crashes, like `id` says root, like +1000 in milliseconds. this makes the problem very RL verifiable.
so i only expect the harness to get leaner. the harnesses will get leaner.
remember when function calls where part of the response content? we called it “prompt based tool calling” and now there’s typed/schema based tool calling as an inherent capability of these models.
most of what we call a harness or an agent is giving the right prompts and the right tools (which are also just prompts).
so whoever can weave the right sequence of tokens to these behemoth of language models can hoard zero days or spit them out.
so git gud at feeding the right tokens at the right time ig.
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Yann is just plain incorrect here, he’s confusing general intelligence with universal intelligence.
Brains are the most exquisite and complex phenomena we know of in the universe (so far), and they are in fact extremely general.
Obviously one can’t circumvent the no free lunch theorem so in a practical and finite system there always has to be some degree of specialisation around the target distribution that is being learnt.
But the point about generality is that in theory, in the Turing Machine sense, the architecture of such a general system is capable of learning anything computable given enough time and memory (and data), and the human brain (and AI foundation models) are approximate Turing Machines.
Finally, with regards to Yann's comments about chess players, it’s amazing that humans could have invented chess in the first place (and all the other aspects of modern civilization from science to 747s!) let alone get as brilliant at it as someone like Magnus. He may not be strictly optimal (after all he has finite memory and limited time to make a decision) but it’s incredible what he and we can do with our brains given they were evolved for hunter gathering.
After leaving my job, I've found some free time on my hand which I am using to teach myself "practical" RL by teaching an LLM to generate better regex using GRPO.
For whatever it's worth, here's the "experiment diary" where I log my learnings:
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Something Demis said in this hit me so hard.
“Thiel wanted us to go to Silicon Valley. I insisted we stay in London because this is a long term vision involving research, this is not a fail-fast mission.”
We have to defeat this narrative in the age of ASI.
I can see where he comes from exactly.
We need to build ASI here.
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Pre-training: Contra the popular belief that scaling is over—which we discussed in our NeurIPS '25 talk with @ilyasut and @quocleix—the team delivered a drastic jump. The delta between 2.5 and 3.0 is as big as we've ever seen. No walls in sight!
Post-training: Still a total greenfield. There's lots of room for algorithmic progress and improvement, and 3.0 hasn't been an exception, thanks to our stellar team.
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It is in direct opposition to faith.
RL is bounded by finite data😣?
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Something that stunned me about @gigaai is they've moved away from the FDE playbook that's become the default for fast growing AI startups. Instead they've built AI to covert plain English from the customer into Python code to make the product work for their use cases i.e. an AI FDE. It's a huge technical feat and is how they can onboard enterprises in weeks vs months.