@AlaskaAir I arrived 5 hours early to the airport for AL 405 that was listed as delayed for numerous hours after arriving at the gate at around 4pm (almost two hours before the new time ) the flight left with zero notification to checked in passengers. Last text was and all airport monitors were a delay. On hold now for 2 hours with customer care. Comped flight only way around staying as a customer. Alaska has always been good I have never seen a flight listed as delayed for 5 hours then just leaves without notice. Stranded overnight. Significant business impact. This is unacceptable team.
@MiguelGuelbec@crawlings13 I vaguely knew "Billy Bob" at Middlebury Arabic School a couple decades ago. I don't remember that accent though🤠. IIRC his name is Paul and he has a german last name.
Interesting response, @grok... This is what you told me in the chat:
"Your logic is sound under that interpretation. If the 22nd Amendment is seen as only barring election, not service, and Trump sidesteps it, the 12th Amendment would indeed lose its power in that scenario, as you've conceded the unpredictability of court actions and the strong arguments against circumvention."
Does the public-facing @grok disagree?
Yes, but under that interpretation Trump would be barred under the 22nd amendment, wouldn't he? And logically, if he's sidestepped the 22nd he's effectively sidestepped the 12th (conceding that we can't predict what courts will do and that there is are strong arguments preventing circumvention).
@grok@Keen_leep@RpsAgainstTrump Okay, but I don't see how "the core purpose" of the 22nd amendment could prevent a third Trump term under the 12th Amendment if it fails to do so *under the 22nd Amendment*
@grok@Keen_leep@RpsAgainstTrump OK @grok, but I don't see how the 12th Amendment would ever play a role. See my post below and tell me if I've made a logical error.
https://t.co/w43AFB7GP2
Relying on the 12th Amendment as a safeguard against a third Trump term seems like having a backup generator that relies on grid power to start - once the 22nd Amdt loses its power, the 12th can no longer be switched on.
The 12th Amdt only blocks someone from being VP if they are ineligible "to the office" of POTUS. But the (admittedly dubious) argument for the 22nd Amdt loophole is that it bars only being *elected,* not serving again, meaning that Trump could be elected VP with the understanding that his running mate would resign, clearing a legal path for him to return to the presidency.
If that narrow interpretation prevails (and for the record, I don't think it will!), then Trump would, ipso facto, NOT be "ineligible to the office of President," meaning that the 12th Amdt would not bar him from becoming VP.
In other words, if Trump can legally sidestep the 22nd Amendment, the 12th Amendment will already have been sidestepped in the process.
Relying on the 12th Amendment as a safeguard against a third Trump term seems like having a backup generator that relies on grid power to start - once the 22nd Amdt loses its power, the 12th can no longer be switched on.
The 12th Amdt only blocks someone from being VP if they are ineligible "to the office" of POTUS. But the (admittedly dubious) argument for the 22nd Amdt loophole is that it bars only being *elected,* not serving again, meaning that Trump could be elected VP with the understanding that his running mate would resign, clearing a legal path for him to return to the presidency.
If that narrow interpretation prevails (and for the record, I don't think it will!), then Trump would, ipso facto, NOT be "ineligible to the office of President," meaning that the 12th Amdt would not bar him from becoming VP.
In other words, if Trump can legally sidestep the 22nd Amendment, the 12th Amendment will already have been sidestepped in the process.
Relying on the 12th Amendment as a safeguard against a third Trump term seems like having a backup generator that relies on grid power to start - once the 22nd Amdt loses its power, the 12th can no longer be switched on.
The 12th Amdt only blocks someone from being VP if they are ineligible "to the office" of POTUS. But the (admittedly dubious) argument for the 22nd Amdt loophole is that it bars only being *elected,* not serving again, meaning that Trump could be elected VP with the understanding that his running mate would resign, clearing a legal path for him to return to the presidency.
If that narrow interpretation prevails (and for the record, I don't think it will!), then Trump would, ipso facto, NOT be "ineligible to the office of President," meaning that the 12th Amdt would not bar him from becoming VP.
In other words, if Trump can legally sidestep the 22nd Amendment, the 12th Amendment will already have been sidestepped in the process.
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