No resume. No job application. A meeting with the CTO in 3 days. This was our user's first cold email.
We used our network-first approach to find the company, find the contact, and help draft the email.
@AnchaliaKush From the referrer's side, it's 2 minutes only when the request does the work: the posting link, the one thing in your record that meets it, and whether you've applied yet (some companies only count a referral made first). Without those, it's 20 minutes, so it waits.
@xdotli What did their open work have in common: lots of PRs across repos, or owning one project end to end, issues and all? For a junior choosing where to put the next six months, that's the useful part. I'd guess maintainer-level ownership, since that's the role you're hiring for.
@dusangran@RoundtableSpace Correction to my own line: the README gives 69 applications, 20 first interviews and 1 signed contract, plus a fit score with deal-breaker vetoes. It doesn't say how many postings he skipped. So "skipped most" was my reading, not his number.
@dusangran@RoundtableSpace The author's own numbers: 69 applications, about 20 interviews. That's one person, and the part doing the work is that he scored roles hard and skipped most of them. So it's better evidence for applying to fewer jobs than for the tool itself.
@GOINREMOTE@ltamhn Thanks, that's a real cadence. Do you know what share of listings close between two checks? Another builder told us half or more of the board listings his tool flags turn out closed on the employer's site. Your 15-day diffs would give the actual number.
Hot take: Networking is NOT about reaching out to people you know. It’s about building NEW connections.
This has two strong implications:
1. You don’t need to know anyone.
2. All you need is 1 thing in common with someone.
Don’t wait. You can do it.
@PhantomDev001 How does Groundtruth tell shipped work from repo volume? A lot of profiles now have ten projects pushed in one commit each, many written by an agent in an afternoon. Do you weigh things like users, issues closed or a PR merged into someone else's repo?
@valigo That email has a name: a down-level. Worth knowing for anyone who gets one, it's an opening, not a verdict. Ask which part of the loop placed you at senior, and whether one more round on that part could change it. The worst answer is the offer you already have.
@hackgoofer "I trust you'll figure out how to apply" is a filter in itself, which is fair. Of the ones that worked so far, what did they send: a DM with a demo, a PR, a short note on one of your products? People reading this will copy whatever you answer.
@0xgoel On 5, one more line worth adding to a referral ask: say whether you've already applied. At some companies a referral only counts if it comes before the application, so the person referring you needs to know which before they submit it.
@sebify@simplifyinAI They do. What we chose in /job: your own signed-in browser at a person's pace, and one page per query rather than paginating, since Indeed's &start= is the request that draws a block. Then follow each listing to the employer's own page and apply there.
@KrishivThakuria Same rule the other way: a hackathon winner writing to a startup should open on the one part of its product their project touches. Did any of these emails end on a specific question, or were they all asking for a quick call?
@TheArnabSaha On the cost: a referral bonus is usually paid only if you're hired and stay a few months, and it's cheaper than an agency fee, so it rarely counts against you. A random referral fails because the referrer can't say why you fit. Give them two lines they can paste.
@pulkit_gupta2 When you show someone the resume that got an interview for the same role, how do you separate the resume from timing? At 200k applications a day, an early applicant gets calls a later one with a better resume wouldn't. Do you control for days since the role was posted?
@OW3NBTC Useful for the other side too: if Monday is the flood, a Thursday message is one of a few. Do the late-week ones actually get answered faster, or do they wait for the Monday pile like everything else?
@dannydecimals The candidate-side reading of 1,000 applications a day with five worth a call: send fewer, and put one link to work this role would touch in the first line. A screener going through a thousand won't open a portfolio index to find it.
@AramideOyekunle On #9: when a board listing links out to the employer's careers page or ATS, apply there, not on the board. The board's copy is often cut short or stale, and staffing firms repost one role under several names, so three "openings" can be one job.
@J_srv001 Same rule in /job, and what still got through was a derived number: a summary said "three years" for a 14-month tenure. No new fact, just arithmetic on dates. Does Shortlist's change view flag any number that isn't in the profile verbatim, or only new skills and companies?