@FeserEdward Reminds me of this quote:
"The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction no longer exists."
@sunnyright If LLMs are so important, maybe instead of just insulting people, someone could make a case for it? Like tell us what it will improve and how?
@RoomWondrous@Acts17David The serpent argues against your point though. It was a licit sacred object until people explicitly started worshipping it. But EO say they do not worship icons so the situation is closest to the preworship snake. It also shows a biblical distinction between worship and veneration
Even as a Protestant I found this thinking weird. EO explicitly deny they worship icons, so the presumption should be they are not idolators. Perhaps a strong argument could overcome this, but instead its often just "icons look to me personally like idolatry so they are idolatry"
One of the main sticking points for Protestants who start examining Eastern Orthodoxy is that icon veneration seems eerily similar to the idolatry that's condemned throughout the Bible. I think I've gotten the gist of the EO perspective on this issue from my recent discussions, so it's time to dive a little deeper. Who wants to join me for a friendly discussion/debate on whether EO icon veneration is a problem according to the Bible?
@Seyi_Od@HaruhiAisaka@WWUTTcom Just as one can deny the trinity without committing blasphemy, you can deny the PV of Mary without doing so. But many critics of this doctrine express their disagreement in a crude way, such as the op, which at least borders on it.
@DoltishRobot@JeremyDBoreing If someone called the 1990s internet "the most powerful tool we've ever created", it would be 100% justified to ask for something, anything, to back up the assertion. I don't even think the modern internet is the most powerful tool we've ever created.
@DastDn Why would people who dislike generative AI be morons? Especially given that the people selling/making the AI say its intended to lead to massive job losses?
While AI oligarchs have been disastrously bad at PR, people also just don't like LLMs that much. And they especially don't like the side effects of them existing: the sloppification of all things to name just one.
βAmericans are now more comfortable living near a nuclear power plant than an AI data centerβ -@RachelBitecofer
The AI oligarchs took a winning hand, and with a mixture cigarette-industry level greed and tone-deaf insensitivity, utterly screwed the pooch.
A tale for the ages.