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@ThisIsDarwino @integrity_to What area of Toronto do you live in? I live in the area he filmed and it is not good

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@willerrickson @SKivimaa Sure, but you went from "even fat guys can land attractive women" to "be a good fitness level". I think everyone agrees that fit, charming, ambitious, successful, responsible guys are attractive to women. Being all of that at once is hard.

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@willerrickson @SKivimaa I feel like people who say these things don't understand how this happens. Usually, the fat guy married to the attractive lady met her when he was younger and attractive. They fell in love, got married, he focused on providing for her+kids instead of the gym and got fat. The end

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@cryptojourneyrs Modern day Diogenes

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@Margare7a Also there is a distinction between what people go for in a short term mating context vs long term mating context. Increasingly, younger women are just focusing on their career and engaging in short term relationships, for which looks are more important than anything else

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@Margare7a Most women aren't going to waste time going on 2 or 3 more dates with a guy they don't feel immediately attracted to when they have other options.

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@AmandaH53287213 @SKivimaa Isn't that exactly what he is saying? For hookups, guys aren't picky, but most women are picky so you get a small number of attractive guys hooking up with a lot of women, most of whom he would never seriously consider dating/marrying

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@Cheldubiduba @greenerycode Possibly. I dunno, if you read some of Costello's research, the constellation of issues the typical incel is having is probably very hard to overcome by just trying harder. Very high rates of severe depression and suicidality. Gotta try to reduce that somewhat first

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@SovereignIM For short term success, all that matters is that you're attractive and appear to have money/status. Narcissistic people excel at this

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@SovereignIM This is easily explained if you understand narcissism though. Narcissistic people have strong intrinsic motivation to be physically attractive and superficially successful. They put a lot of time and effort in to having the superficial traits women find attractive

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@Cheldubiduba @greenerycode Yea - William Costello has actual research showing this is the case. I imagine incels could overcome the autism by being really good looking, which is probably why they are so focused on looks - it actually is their path out, since they can't just stop being autistic.

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@Etanarachel Absolutely. Tbh I spent a lot of time trying to understand women better, it is not good lol. Probably we are better off if men and women don't fully understand each other

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@brianatheroux Lol obviously the bar is not incredibly low if double digit percentages of men are failing. I know multiple guys who are millionaires, good careers, have their own place/car, etc and can't find a girlfriend.

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@Cheldubiduba @greenerycode You actually can lol. Be sufficiently autistic and unattractive (which most incels are) - that is not going to work

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@tobasiteuberman @falconerd Nah.. been building software professionally for like coming close to 20 years. This stuff matters as the codebase grows, you have multiple maintainers, you gain more users/app usage goes up, you need to ensure uptime 24/7, you have high performance needs, etc

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@ne_wisp @vividvoid Oh man, I had the same idea after seeing a feminist therapist and the guy wasn't that much better.. most of them are terrible

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@VivaldiVril I dunno man. I know some forever alone guys - all have good careers, shower daily, get haircuts, have their own places/cars, etc. Zero women interested

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@LisaBritton At this point I'm thinking the move is to try to date/marry a woman who isn't a native English speaker and does not consume this kind of media lol

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@nimfeo @beyzipsg My own 2 cents as a guy who is more successful careerwise/financially than like 99% of women my age - the problem isn't intelligence or being career driven. It is almost always the narcissistic "boss babe" attitude that turns guys off. Narcissistic women are unattractive