Happy 34th anniversary to #Batman89 🦇. in 2019 I put edited this 1940s noir style trailer for the movie. Was a blast to work on. My little tribute to a timeless film that had a massive impact both as a fan and creator. 🦇❤️ #Batman#DC#videoeditor#videoediting#trailer
@KCharlesRoss@kiwitalkz I'm hoping AI just becomes a new form of temp score. I recently got a project for an indie game dev who had used a Suno track-- I tried to look at it like I had a blueprint of the vibe they wanted, took the key/BPM, but spun it in a new direction that they liked even more.
@KCharlesRoss@kiwitalkz I do worry about when we get some sort of "ScoreAI" app where you feed it a scene and prompt the type of score you want and it's able to hit beats and whatnot. Bleak. But I continue on with the belief that more filmmakers will value real human collaboration and creativity.
I think it's both true that the ending is thematically ABOUT Mike and the gang using belief/the power of story to cope with grief and move on...AND also that their belief is based on something likely with a bit of truth to it and isn't just about them lying to themselves.
Stranger Things Ending
Now that I’ve had a bit of time (and sleep) to sit with it, I wanted to add a little more context to my thoughts on the fate of Eleven.
SPOILERS…
My position is that she made the ultimate sacrifice, though I know not everyone agrees.
I’ve been reading a lot of the discussion around details like the hedgehog devices, Mike’s realization at graduation, Eleven’s nose not bleeding, and her ability to communicate with Mike even while the hedgehogs were active. I understand why those moments are being read as confirmation that she survived.
However, what keeps me leaning toward a different interpretation is how deliberately the story frames all of this through theory and perspective rather than offering any kind of clear confirmation.
Mike’s idea doesn’t come to him as the discovery of something he knows happened. It comes in a moment of emotional processing. It feels less like uncovering a fact and more like grasping onto a way forward so he, and the others, can finally heal and let go. It reads to me as the story he tells himself because he has to. Otherwise, he risks living the rest of his life stuck in grief and pain, exactly what Hopper warns him about earlier.
That said, the show clearly wants us to notice that Eleven isn’t affected by the hedgehog devices, that she can still reach Mike, and that Kali’s abilities are part of the equation. And we ARE shown earlier that those devices completely incapacitate Eleven. Every other time they’re active, she collapses in pain.
See Dave! She's alive!
Not necessarily. But let's go with it for a moment...
if what the group saw was a projection, it still raises a larger question: how did Eleven physically escape at all if the hedgehogs were on? Were they activated, pointed at her, or fully powered? The episode never clarifies this, and that's obviously intentional.
Did Eleven travel? Did she get a passport? How did she survive? Where did she go?
Instead of explaining the mechanics of this, the story instead leaves us with a final image of Eleven in a tranquil, almost otherworldly place. A place so peaceful it feels less like a destination she reached and more like a state of being. Whether that’s her heaven, or Mike’s idea of heaven for her, is left open. But she looks pretty ill-equipped to literally be in that location. ;)
Another detail people point to is the lack of a nosebleed when Eleven reaches Mike in the void, even though earlier in the series that’s established as the physical cost of doing so. I don’t read that as the rules suddenly changing though. I read it as the moment no longer being about exertion. She isn’t searching, fighting, or forcing anything. She’s choosing. For the first time in her life, she has full agency. The show removes the visual signs of struggle because this moment isn’t about power. It’s about letting go.
We’re also shown earlier in the season that Kali’s projections have limits, including distance. By the time Mike’s theory unfolds, she’s already been gravely wounded and is very far away.
There’s also been a lot of discussion about the sound design after the close-up on Mike’s face, right after the cut to black. We hear a heartbeat. Some people take that as confirmation that Eleven is alive, and it absolutely could be read that way. But a few moments earlier, just before Eleven disappears, we hear an exhale, not an inhale. In film language, that can just as easily signify a final breath and a final heartbeat. Again, the moment supports multiple emotional readings without locking us into one.
The chaos of the ending, the noise, the movement, the confusion, all create what I like to call a narrative fog, where multiple possibilities can coexist. For me, that ambiguity allows Mike to choose what he believes in order to move forward, while still preserving the weight of Eleven’s choice. The story isn’t interested in walking us step by step through an escape. It’s interested in what this moment means for the people left behind.
I understand why some people feel my interpretation denies Eleven a happy ending, especially given how much abuse and loss she’s endured. But for me, her arc was never really about sunshine and rainbows and waterfalls. It was about agency. In her final moment, she isn’t used or controlled by anyone else, including Kali. She has full autonomy. She chooses to save everyone by ending the cycle.
If she’s still out there, even if the risk is small, the cycle isn’t truly broken. But if she’s gone, it is.
I know The Duffer Brothers have said that Eleven had to “go away” for the others to be able to move on, carefully avoiding words like die or death. That language leaves room for interpretation while preserving the emotional weight of her choice. They want wiggle room for that 20th year reunion show. lol.
The epilogue isn’t really about what happened. It’s about what the characters need in order to heal, let go, and keep living. Mike doesn’t say he knows what happened. He says he chooses to believe it. That distinction is the answer for me.
For the record, Eleven is my favorite character. On an emotional level, of course I want her to be alive and happy. I just think the ending carries far more weight when viewed through the lens of ultimate sacrifice and everything the story has built toward.
@TheVoiceMann@FinalGuyKris To me, the mark of a good, effective ambiguous ending is when there are valid ways to read it either way that are supported by the text, but still invite the viewer to make a choice. Like the spinning top in Inception. I think this is one of those.
@flodyssey Wally's cinematography still just blows me away in this film. He really achieved a great blend of heightened "epic" visuals while still feeling naturalistic. Awesome blend of BB and TDK's visual styles.
@NolanAnalyst Previous Nolan films generally have music that is based on the actual score but still an alternate/trailerized version that's not in the actual movie. Recent example being the first Oppie trailer which had a more "triumphant" version of the main theme. Not in the movie though.
@dambury67@MiddleOfMayhem Compared to Ready Player One which actually was kind of a bombastic video game, this feels a lot closer to a blend of classic and more modern Spielberg to me. Plus trailers are always cut to be more modern and bombastic. I think it looks very promising.
@wunpleasant @clbsctt @Sturgeons_Law@chmpagnecomrade First ever movie shot entirely in IMAX,incredible locations around the world and Ludwig is scoring. The costumes will be the very last thing on my mind when I'm seated for a 70mm IMAX showing next summer.
@dogshit95 I don't get that vibe at all. It's just a teaser, but I'm not gonna bet against Spielberg + Williams + this subject matter. This is gonna be worthwhile.
living in a time of endless spiritual flattening really emphasizes how important it is to be a good person and keep love in your heart. it’s hard, but nothing else matters.
@jgvisions00 “It’s going to dig into the epic story about deeper corruption"...to me that implies another plot pealing back more layers of Gotham's history. And even using modern politics as an example, nothing exists in a vacuum. The conditions that led us to now didn't appear overnight.
With 2025 coming to a close we are now halfway through the 2020s. So I decided to make a little tribute, just for fun, to the films that have filled the first half of this decade.
@chrisgpt Nah this is actually just bad. The wall is the uncanny valley aspect. Even CGI hasn't been able to fully clear that when it comes to rendering authentic humans. Fully AI gen video gives a weird and creepy vibe. It has uses as a VFX tool, but this was actual slop.
@blightersort This stings. You can almost imagine an alternate timeline where Blockbuster became the dominant streamer but also had the infrastructure in place to continue supporting/evolving the physical rental business. Ugh.
Yup. At this point, I can't help but yearn for a group of the most successful directors to band together and form a United Artists 2.0. We really need people who truly understand the audience and actually get/revere what movies are culturally to be driving the industry.