Tiago Tresoldi

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[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@luiz_young @annamagagnin Odeia mais, pelo menos no futebol.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

My silly little linguistic game: https://t.co/WbanD6Cs5e

[Nick Longrich @NickLongrich]

@rosbifenth10032 The real victims of bad hires aren't the academics who don't get jobs, but students, deprived of good teachers, and a society deprived of good scholarship. An academic job isn't a right, it's a privilige that comes with the responsibility to help others.

[Joseph Chenard @joe_chenard]

Proto-Elamite: Writing and Society in Early Iran by Kathryn Kelley
(free to read until August 4!)
https://t.co/zRLVRDwVFT

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@JLingPystynen There is also the story of Claudius who wrote a lost grammar of Etruscan

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@JLingPystynen Japanese description of Ainu? Still colonial...

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao Just prescription....

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao The "rule" I was given in primary and secondary school, which at the time was used by many university entry exams, is that you could only use "-mente" etymologically, as "with an X mind", with some tolerance for metaphors and other figures of speech

[Everything Price Sufferer (but especially eggs) @agraybee]

I didn't know Helen of Troy could generate so much conflict.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@NNNNNNMRN @JoeBenoi @MagnusPharao They were consumed. Muslim Iberians knew of Troy mostly through Muslim historiography, but they even wrote comments on Greco-Roman myths (cf. Hercules related to "Andalus'" name). In the Kitāb Hurūshiyūsh there is a quotation by Virgil translated to Arabic.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@JoeBenoi @NNNNNNMRN @MagnusPharao Yes, Homer is not there, unless you force references here and there. Exactly what was said before, no poetry, Troy read in Latin.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@JoeBenoi @NNNNNNMRN @MagnusPharao Dioscorides is the most famous example, along with other medical texts (e.g. Hippocrates), Ptolemy, Euclid, and of course Aristotle, with the prolific school of comments especially on Cordoba. It's well known that the latter re-entered W Europe via Andalusia

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@NNNNNNMRN @MagnusPharao al-Andalus was extraordinarily multilingual, with Arabic, Latin, Hebrew, and Romance literary circles. Toledo was a center also for Latin, that is how you get to Alfonso X. There were even Muslim authors writing in Latin, not only Mozarabs.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@NNNNNNMRN @JoeBenoi @MagnusPharao Not quite. A number of philosophical/scientific works reached Iberia through Arabic transmission, some were preserved this way, not poetry. Even if did, it is not part of the chain of transmission. Troy was known in Latin (Virgil, Dares, Dyctis, Ilias latina, Ovid, Hyginus, etc.)

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao Hahaha, sorry, I guess it activated an old fight mode. Context: my thesis was on the reception of Odysseus, and I got so much opposition alongthose lines (with little discussion on my actual thesis) that it still triggers me. Should learn to be more Odysseus and less Achilles. ;)

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao I don't think it is valid. One thing is to stress how Homer was received by different groups and does not belong more to Greeks/Europeans/Whites than to others. Another is present the literary history (influences) that leads to her work.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao The view of Homer in Western Europe is basically what we find in the Comedy: a huge respect, learned from Roman scholars, and an immense sorrow for not being able to access him.

[Tiago Tresoldi @tresoldi]

@MagnusPharao To condense the reception in the introductory paragraph of a public-facing translation is hard, agreed, but it seems to just mislead in the common sense of "Western Europe did not care for a long time" and that is absolutely not true.