or at the very least pro-poverty, which equates to the same thing; Before 'surplus value' came the destitution and degradation necessary to force you and me to sell our labor to a capitalist; poverty created capitalists, and to eradicate capital we must eradicate poverty.
@CodyLibolt There is nothing consensual about controlling access to human needs behind money and making us work for you to earn money.
Just because you normalized coercion of labor through control of human necessity, doesn't make it consensual or voluntary in any form.
I didnt choose this
@ItsLulu_7 Despite the propaganda, the US is *fundamentally* antidemocratic.
Even its ostensibly democratic relief valve-the elected monarch-has lost control of the apparatus.
if we know that democratic or republican the wars keep going, capital continues to grow.. why care about it?
@ItsLulu_7 Even the ostensibly democratic figurehead with 'legal authority' to act with discretion cant change the direction of the state.
So why are we pretending any level of ideology or theory can change that fact?
@TheAliceSmith By that metric capitalism has killed a couple hundred million between the two world wars, market access war and extraction of resources from.the periphery which leads to starvation and deprivation of billions, leading to millions of deaths from hunger, disease, and malnutrition.
@AP4Liberty Capitalism is the freedom to make wealth the only metric for power.
It takes away the power of all other things and dominates them by nature.
Capitalism is freedom the way that a king was free within his realm.
His power was absolute and yet arbitrary.
Wealth is the same.
@FightWithMemes It'd be funny if the states of conservatives didn't end up just as dependent on federal funds when disasters strike and all of a sudden everybody is real keen on that sweet fed cash.
@JBP_Virginia@jackvlloyd Just because you've normalized the use of human need to coerce labor doesnt make it less coercive.
Sure!
Return the commons ans usufruct. land is distributed based on use and need;
The line is taking advantage of other humans.
Your rights end where mine begin.
@berkey@The_JBS Only the morally bankrupt see a system of slavery and arbitrary violence and wish to be the ones enslaving and doing violence.
This is what separates us from capitalists.
Violence and coercion are not justifiable.
@Fallen_Punk@jackvlloyd Carefully avoiding how 'your' land only became 'yours' by violent theft and genocide.
Usufruct would allow you the same freedom of use, it just isnt yours in perpetuity once you die.
I can see you are yet another ideologue who thinks you can erase history.
@Fallen_Punk@jackvlloyd No worse than a society where every inch of the commons was 'enclosed'(READ: stolen) before I was born, which forced me into involuntary servitude simply through totalized markets for all things including land so that i must perform labor for someone else for my survival.
@Fallen_Punk@jackvlloyd Lets not kid ourselves, you are pretending freedom while being a slave.
You proclaim your freedom yet hold up the chains of your oppression as your tools.
Money, currency, markets, states, theyre all impositions on autonomy.
You will never be free while you uphold any of them.
@Fallen_Punk@jackvlloyd Silver, who legalized the standard of purity and weights for that? 🤣
Barter, of goods purchased in a market with money?
Come on, you know just how much of this is LARP.
Your seeds probably come from a Monsanto subsidiary and-odds are-your field fertilized by imported uria.