@EasternMilk@Cri1823759Cris No I don’t think “taking it with a grain of salt” is not fair either. The way we should look at it is they expressed Orthodoxy in a different manner against the western churches to vindicate Orthodoxy. Obviously there are outliers (like Prokopovich) but that’s not the majority.
@EasternMilk@Cri1823759Cris Some issues sure. But to merely dismiss the holy men during those periods for holding to actual Orthodox doctrine is just retarded
@nepsisblog@satisfyjustice You wanna keep this same energy for St. John of Shanghai and St. Philaret of New York or you wanna keep talking garbage about St. Peter Mogila.
@DianeKamer@SwampmanAnthony@smolenskksenia No that doesn’t mean anything. Origen, St. Cyril of Alexandria, St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, etc. believed she was the new Eve and yet still sinned. Point being that the new Eve belief doesn’t prove the IC.
@OrthodoxLatin88 There was definitely a Latin captivity our saints talk about it. Although I’m not one of those people who think everything from that period is wrong or “heterodox” just some of the things taught.
@ChayanneMaxxer@TheOrthoEnsign Yeah he punished us for bending the knee to godless heathens who perverted the Church. The fruits show weird erotic saint stories of breast milk from Mary (disgusting) and wearing Jesus’ foreskin which is disgusting.
@UntoldFortune Correct. Which is why people pushing PSA who aren’t Protestant go against both the Orthodox and RC tradition. Although I would definitely say you could make a good case for satisfaction, being that we find various principles of it in St. John Chrysostom and St. Jerome.
@the_primuspilus@KySquirrel_90 I wouldn’t say I dislike Jay or Alex either just disagreements. Though I would say I’m much more of a Ben Michael fan. He’s a cool dude and defends the American dream of our nation’s ethnic group
@ChayanneMaxxer@TheOrthoEnsign I’m Western European and Eastern Orthodox and I can say you have a point on post-schism empires but you’re forgetting Byzantium which was one of the most successful empires or if not the most in the common era.
@Cri1823759Cris He’s right to a degree but horribly said. But to be fair to the Russian period I think in essence they were not completely wrong but rightfully expressed the faith for that specific time period. I wouldn’t dare to say a lot or even most was against the patristics.