Hello, this is Avigail, Ori’s eldest daughter. I’m sorry to tell you that my dad passed away tonight, after a long battle with colon cancer. He was 50 years old.
@thoughtographic@dreeezabz Most Zionists think that Zionism is part and parcel of Judaism, and key to the survival of the Jewish people. They've used that motivation to influence US policy in the Middle East and Israel through decades of planning and work.
Or maybe the Palestinian struggle is important because Zionism is evil and bad and we shouldn't tolerate genocide and apartheid, this Leninist logical model for why one should support the Palestinian cause is neither coherent nor particularly moving.
If you’re a leftist you want to abolish capitalism. To abolish capitalism you have to stop imperialism. The Zionist project of Israel is a key tool of US imperialism. Which is why the Palestinian struggle is such an important issue of our time.
@thoughtographic@dreeezabz Not really Judaism per se, by 'theological commitment' I just mean 'primary ideological commitment,' you can substitute those phrases. But if you think Zionists don't really believe what they're doing is a genuine part of Judaism's project, then you're going to have to rethink.
@thoughtographic@dreeezabz Israel has leverage over the U.S. that it has successfully used to carry out its own goals -- most likely to the detriment of 'US interests' in the region.
@dreeezabz@thoughtographic If you can explain how ‘capitalism’ and consequently ‘capitalist imperialism’ explains US support for Israel, I’ll agree the reasoning is coherent. Otherwise it’s just buzzwords and we need better analytic tools to describe what’s going on
@dreeezabz@thoughtographic If OP wanted to make a claim about the eocnomic benefits of the us-Israel relationship he could’ve done that, instead he says we should care about Palestine because “capitalism” and “imperialism.” Also, I don’t think economic benefits are the main driving force at all
@Flea_ad@kosphobia I fear that this would make for a fairly masochistic eating experience, personally. What does it taste like when it’s all mixed up like that?
@justinecheng_ i had a philosophy seminar last year where the professor incentivized us to speak up and she asked us this exact question in front of everyone anytime someone gave an interpretation of the reading that wasn't dumb enough. it was scary but very effective at getting us to learn
@Flea_ad@kosphobia peanut butter is good, but the mandarin i'm a bit puzzled at. are you just biting into the rice and mandarin slice at the same time, by themselves? how does the textural-flavor combo work here
@JungeToerless understandable dismay lmao, it rlly is awesome esp if you liked the anime a lot. 1st chapter alone is probably one of the best suspense-horror experiences (they got me scared over mion's eyes ever so slightly changing their hue)
@thoughtographic It's more appropriate to view U.S. support for Israel in terms of the narrative and principle of Jewish exceptionalism that has been crafted and maintained since WWII -- check out the book After Evil by Robert Meister on this.
@thoughtographic The first two questions are very related to each other, the third one also pretty related but a bit more broad, and the last question is a lot broader in scope and you can't just relate them to the other three in a neat framework.
@mntnofaheart Tough questions. The easiest one to answer is the last - its material manifestations have definitely been evil. I'm not sure what it means to designate something as inherently, or particularly evil. Could you help me understand your motivations for drawing those distinctions?
@thoughtographic I just don't think you can understand US support for Israel through the lens of some grander goal of extracting resources from the Global South, the reasons are much more particular, theological, and specific to the US and Israel (and Europe) than your framework warrants.